"Useful Politically Correct Idiots"

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  1. ibshambat

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    An Internet poster stated that men who were involved in feminism were “useful politically correct idiots.”


    I for one have opposed political correctness ever since I knew what it was. I however make a strong stance in favor of women's rights and powers in society. That is because there are many things that influence people besides self-interest. I have a daughter, and my interest in her well-being is more important to me than is my interest in my own.



    So we see these men claiming that men who are into feminism are selling out their own gender. Why on earth would they identify the people they care about with their gender? For conscientious people, there are other values besides self-interest. That includes other values besides their gender interest. If you love a woman, or if you have a daughter, then you seek her well-being even when it is not necessarily in line with your own interests as a man.



    What people who want men to identify with their gender do not understand is that nothing at all is owed to a gender. Things are owed to people who have been contributors of humanity, and that includes both women and men. I owe absolutely nothing to the male gender. I owe to people of both genders who have done valuable things. And one of the valuable things that I seek to accomplish in my lifetime is creating better man-woman relationships. I want to see people refuse to identify with their gender and instead identify with people they love. And then they can work together with people they love to create better lives for each other.



    Once again, I refuse to identify with a gender. There is no reason whatsoever why either a man or a woman should identify with such things. If you care about others who are not your gender, you will do what you can to improve things for them. A loving, responsible father would want the best for his daughter, and a good husband would want the best for his wife. Which means that he will refuse the unearned claims that other men make on his attention and instead do what he can to make the world better for his daughter or for his wife.



    To the men who want me to support the male gender: Piss off. I will not support a gender, and I will not give my attention to people who do not merit it. When women are doing the wrong thing, they should be confronted as much as should men who are doing the wrong thing. But forcing gender identification at the expense of identification with people you love is wrong. My daughter has the right to my attention. Some wife-beating jerk does not.



    So it is time that this con be called out. You do no favors to anyone by identifying with your gender at the expense of the other gender. And a good man will look beyond his self-interests as a man and make decisions that benefit other people, whatever gender they may be.
     
  2. doombug

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    Wrong. Men involved in feminism are just trying to get laid.
     
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    Or rapey. They are the betta cucks who prey on women when the woman gets emotionally vulnerable and uses that to manipulate her.
     
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    Perhaps but most of these guys are just beta males who cannot get laid.
     
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    Same difference. A bunch have just been reported as being rapist and sexual assaulters too.
     
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    I had an involvement in feminism, but not as a part of trying to get laid. I have a daughter.
     
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    So what? Does having a daughter kill your sexual urges?
     
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    The feminine name has been high jacked by the lunatic man haters.
    Equal rights has nothing to do with the new age fems. IMO.
    I am a child of the 50s and loved being a girl and the guys fighting over who would open my door. My husband of 42 years ask me why I was still standing when he got into the car. I said my door wasn't opened.:D. He still opens doors for me today.:cool:
     
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    Which feminism? The one pushing for equal rights or the one that pushes man hating?

    The term is basically meaningless so long as both movements are linguistically indistinguishable.
     
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    Not really.
     
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    That’s so sad that you don’t believe in equal rights for women. I just hope you don’t have a daughter
     
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    I have 2 daughters one is 50 yr old now and the other not far behind. Both have good husbands and I love my SIL's. Good hard working. Mothers should raise their own children not go do their thing and let low wage strangers raise them. Once kids in school maybe. What is sad is most mothers because of the breakdown of the family HAVE to work now and the children pay the price as o the women.
    We wer not made or meant to be alone with kids.
    Since the lib fems took over most women are on medication just to cope. When I was young nobody was on drugs to calm themselves or sleep.
    Both are mothers with daughters and neither is a feminist.
    Society has destroyed the family and men and women are mixed up and don't know how to act, so their children pay the price for both kinds of insanity.
    Terrible that now kids have an epidemic of commit suicide form age 5 - 15 I think it was. How in the hell does a 5 yr old commit suicide?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/suicide-youth-teens-whats-behind-rise/
     
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    What about fathers raising children? Are you saying that men are not competent to be parents? And I think I see a little judgment and stereotyping when you referred to “low wage” strangers raise them. So can I conclude that fathers aren’t raising their children because they are away from them all day? And after a few days these workers are not strangers.
    You are still locked in the 50s when women were forced into a role.
    I am sorry that your daughters don’t believe in equal rights for women because you say with pride that they are not feminists. But I fought for your daughters rights that they didn’t have and hopefully your granddaughters will benefit as well unless your daughters mess that up to them and discourage them from having high aspirations. I am sure you will be happy if your granddaughters goal is to be a stay at home mom and nothing else.
    And your ridiculous statement that most women are on medication is actually comical. In the 50s tranquilizers was one of the worst problems for women to treat depression.Why do you make up such silly facts? The problem then was women couldn’t get divorced and they stayed in horrible marriages. Today women have resources and assurance that they will have child support
    Oh yes we have epidemics of five-year-olds committing suicide LOL it must be true after all you probably read it on the Internet.
    Well now that guns are so available perhaps you’re right that more kids are committing suicide and by the way the mostly boys
     
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    :roflol::D
     
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    Renee I think we both lean a little to the extreme on both issues.
     
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    Feminists are just man hating idiots and the guys who are feminist cheer leaders cannot get laid this is their pathetic attempt to get close to a group of females and to get noticed/laid.
     
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    No, but it motivates me to see through them.
     
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    A typical response from the “uneducated” soon you’ll be calling me a kakahead
     
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    You define roles for women,.,,.thats too bad
     
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    Obviously you must have been badly damaged by a woman to have such contempt for them and even more contempt for men who support women. I pity you. You reduce women and men to sex acts and don’t understand equality and the struggle for it. So sad
     
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    I'd say men involved in feminism are most likely predators. I am an egalitarian so that means necessarily am anti-feminist. I realize she have a daughter and you want what's best for her that's good. I don't think feminism is what's best for her. Most women aren't feminists. There was a time I think feminism was good and it fought for women's rights. During the suffrage era even up until women started getting into the military. Now it's just about demonizing masculinity.

    When you go from rights to vote rights to have equal pay to microaggressions and man spreading your movement is over.
     
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    So you helped in the crusade against man spreading? That's what feminism is. Smashing the imaginary patriarchy.
     
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    Contempt for feminism is not contempt for women most women are not feminists. Feminism is more like a rebel Without a cause. When you go on talking about men sitting with their legs far apart on a subway train and microaggressions your movement is over you have nothing left to complain about.
     
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    No, I had an involvement in an effort to fight domestic violence. Someone very close to me did the bulk of the work, and I supported her.
     
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    That isn't feminism that's decency.
     
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