Usual Leftist rants about attacks on asylum seeker dubunked

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  1. Sab

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    So...south of London a young Kurdish chap was severaly beaten up in a 'hate crime' which the left jumped on as 'evidence' of a post brexit raciost attack by white thugs even Dianne Abbot accused white people of it on the Radio this morning until it was pointed out that several of those arrested are BLACK. The fat hippo was speechless and rang off.
     
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    Give a link then.
     
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    As Alexa says....linkie please. However my take on it if the interview part is actually true.....

    Two of those being looked for are black, one of those being looked for is white, and the five charged are white.....but the whole point is that the attack was on someone who was neither British OR white. Given they asked where he came from before they kicked the crap out of him.....he could just as easily have been a Pole, or a Romanian or any other nationality which was not British...all he needed to be was not "one of us" in this post-Brexit era.

    Interviewing Dianne Abbot, if it happened, is, in and of itself, a racist act on the part of the radio presenter...any other MP would have done IF all they were after was a comment on the incident, and not simply an excuse to promote British racist attitudes.....racist attiitudes like someone coming onto a forum trying to differentiate between British thugs on the basis of their colour?

    Does being black make you more of a British thug than being white, Sab?
     
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    Breitbart is trying to blame the Turks!

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/03/suspects-racist-hate-attack/

    However truth is this was a hate crime with possibly as many as 30 people involved which came near to costing a 17 year old his life - and may indeed have a life destroying outcome and this attack by all accounts came from him saying he was a Refugee. Abbot was perfectly right to point out the increase in hate crimes since Brexit in England and Croydon apparently being particularly virulent though the decent people of Croydon are obviously horrified by this and many of them tried to stop it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ommunity-in-shock-after-attack-on-reker-ahmed
    Gulwali Passarlay, author of The Lightless Sky, an account of coming to the UK as a lone child asylum seeker from Afghanistan, said that attitudes towards refugees had hardened in recent months.

    He highlighted the negative effect of the reporting of the arrival of child refugees from Calais last October (where the ages of the asylum seekers were questioned in some parts of the media), stoking cynicism about child refugees’ asylum claims, and dramatically souring a popular mood of support for child refugees that had followed the drowning of the three-year-old Syrian boy Alan Kurdi in 2015.

    “The environment has changed. People with rightwing views think it is OK to insult asylum seekers. There are a lot of good people in the UK but the mood is changing. Asylum seekers need to be cautious; it’s not always safe to walk around UK cities,” he said.

    Josie Naughton, co-founder of Help Refugees, said the attack demonstrated “the level of fear and prejudice which is taking hold of parts of British society”.[/quote]

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...harities-report-growing-number-of-hate-crimes


    A quiet boy doing his best to recover from the trauma of war and make a life for himself.
     
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    I suspect it means you are not British ;)
     
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    Diane Abbott is the archetypal playing-to-the-gallery rabble-rousing lefty - there is no empirical evidence that hate crime or xenophobia is any worse after the Brexit vote than before it, but saying there is suits the Remainers' small-minded agenda.
     
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    Hate crime in England and Wales has been steadily rising since 2012-2013. From the time of the Brexit vote until September 2016, according to a report by HMG....There is an increase in these offences recorded in June 2016, followed by an even sharper increase in July 2016. The number of aggravated offences recorded then declined in August, but remained at a higher level than prior to the EU Referendum. These increases fit the widely reported pattern of an increase in hate crime following the EU referendum. Whilst January to May 2016 follows a similar level of hate crime to 2015, the number of racially or religiously aggravated offences recorded by the police in July 2016 was 41% higher than in July 2015. The sharp increase in offences is not replicated in the non-racially or religiously aggravated equivalent offences.
     
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    So it is reported, especially by the BBC: but as I said, I've seen no empirical evidence of it - unless you can point me to some which isn't um, anecdotal??
     
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    That is from an HMG report . As HMG seems happy to confirm that the England and Wales police figures reported are accurate about a 41% increase in post-Brexit race crime, with lots of pretty graphs and bar charts as illustration....why do you persist in talking crap?
     
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    Oh a government report? Well I mean - who could possibly doubt 'a government report'? :wall: The fact of the matter, if someone with half a brain had the initiative to analyse the figures against a time-scale, is that there wasn't enough time between the sheer volume of hysterical countrywide claims of 'racial hatred/racial attacks' dreamed up by embittered Remainers, and for the figures to be validated (an important word in this instance?) to enable the plod to investigate all those hundreds of claims thence to collate and then sort out the bogus ones from the genuine prior to publication. In other words it was just more Brexit scare-mongering. So - what were you saying about my 'persisting to talk crap'? Don't be so gullible mate, you ought to know by now that governments lie to suit their agendas.
     
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    So if you don't believe anything produced by HMG, why do you believe everything in the garden is going to be just peachy for the UK post-Brexit?
     
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    Good old Dianne Abbot, whenever I need a reason not to vote, I simply think of her.

    As for the increases in race crime.... increased moaning from the same old moaners would account for it.
    Sore loser tales. You know, the election was cheated. The public wilfully mislead. Vested interests took it over. Ignorance ruled. It was illegal. Once better educated the people will change their minds.
    Yawnfest.

    Brexit is no more racist than Dianne Abbot isn't.
    Race crimes go up every time she opens her mouth. She is not part of the solution, she is part of the cause.

    If you promote Brexit as a time when people will go and be racial attackers... then you plant that seed of suggestion in everyone's mind.... and in some of those minds it grows.
    If you persist in promoting the idea that many people in this country are pro racial violence, then you are normalising it.
    That there is some kind of widely justifiable reason to do this. There isn't.
    If you do this you are not part of "a movement" you are just a ****.

    What we have here is very special. We have the least racially prejudiced society on Earth. Please respect that.

    Please do not promote the idea of us as anything other than this. Our aspiration and in all honesty an aspiration we live up to.
     
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