vaccinate your kids or lose family benefits

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  1. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    No. Getting or not getting vaccinated is one example of doing something that can impact on others. So it is reasonable that there should be financial consequences what you do. If nearly everyone gets vaccinated then that will protect the few that either do not get vaccinated.
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    robot,
    which vaccination do you think are necessary, and which should be left to the individual?
    Regards
     
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    No because my remote, high indigenous population area just hit over 97% Vaccination

    YEAHHHH!!!!!

    Sorry - very very pro-vaccine but then I have SEEN Whooping cough, I have seen Tetanus and I have seen meningococcus just to name a few
     
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    Government works that out based on probable impact and number of cases. Tetanus is a big one that people DO forget (yeeks just remembered I need one must tell my nurse immuniser friend)

    If you are ever in doubt about vaccines think on this

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    6 weeks ICU at least to get them over the spasms that will fracture a spine
     
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    You are more likely to get tetanus mid-life. Why not require it for adults instead of children?
     
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    One million babies per year die of neonatal tetanus
     
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    Unicef seems to think your one million babies is closer to 34,000 babies, and the primary cause is unsanitary medical equipment. Now if they aren't gonna keep the instruments clean, how many of them do you think are really going to keep the needles clean?
     
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    I am still searching for an answer which vaccination deemed must have and which should remain a personal decision....
    regards, and happy Mothers Day
     
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    I was quoting figures from a few years ago - In my life time I have seen the rates of tetanus neonatolum plummet from 3 million per year to less than half a million

    That is a win but it is only because we have managed to vaccinate the mothers. See there is no natural immunity to tetanus and neonatal tetanus is only really prevented by getting immunity from the mother
     
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    You are talking to a nurse Kats - you are never ever going to get me to say none of them. I have seen measles encephalopathy (poor wee thing was a "floppy baby") I have seen herpes encephalitis I have seen the most innocuous diseases in thier extreme forms

    Sorry mate just cannot go there
     
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    I honor your response,
    however it seems you haven't seen the ones which didn't tolerate the vaccination obviously, sorry no offence meant.
    I haven't by the way as well.
    My wife's best friend is a retired nurse, she holds the complete opposite opinion to yours. She wouldn't vaccine her children again, could she wind back time.
    Our neighbour is a retired doctor, he shares your observation and experience.
    So you see, I don't take that easily.
    I am more interested in knowing which vaccination are a must, and which more a fancy one.
    Please don't get upset, but big pharmaceutical enterprises don't always develop what is best for mankind, but what is best for business,
    cheers Cats
     
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    Thanks for answering the question for me.
     
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    Bb,
    many thanks for the link, will study....
    Cheers
     
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    I've seen measles encephalopathy twice, in community nursing. Children of migrants, unvaccinated and had had measles . Both talented kids- girl was a ballet dancer 15, and the boy 13 and had been a taekwondo afficionado. They were both badly brain damaged and the girl died. So terribly sad and such a waste of two lives".
     

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