Venezuelan military to escort Iranian oil tankers

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    He was President.
     
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    He was President.
     
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    So what ... lots of things happen when someone is president - some of them are the presidents fault .. some are not.. what on Gods green earth are you trying to say mate .. ?

    "Obama did it" - did what - what did Obama do to cause the issues with the Navel vessels ?
     
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    So the same holds true for Trump?
     
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    Of course it holds for Trump - but again you avoid clarification of your position - must be at least 5 posts now.

    You are playing some mysterious game - with yourself - but, to the outside world it is not a mystery.

    Don't clarify your claim - if you don't like - but, do state what is on your mind por favor.
     
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    Don't know what you're talking about, I have already clarified my position.
     
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    No Problem!


    Wish the tankers had Chinese or Russian flagged escort!
     
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    Right now all the oil tankers are sitting idle, and I read that Washington is threatening the Greek owners through their insurance companies, banks, etc., but what about the Russian and Chinese tankers? Both of them have relations with Iran and Venezuela, can't they ship the supplies?
     
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    They aren't sitting idle. The fuel has been unloaded by some of them and will be unloaded by the rest as well.

    As for the Russians, they declined to deliver fuel to Venezuela because of US threats and sanctions. And China, which was Iran's largest oil customer, significantly reduced its imports of Iranian oil because of those threats. They buy very little Iranian oil these days and, overall, because of US pressures and threats on all these proud but coddling nations around the world, Iran (which used to be the 2nd or 3rd largest exporter of oil in OPEC) is no longer even among the list of the top 20 oil exporting countries.
     
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    In more important news......

    YouToob not allowing viewers to skip DNC anti Trump ads (video will begin after ad)

    But provides 'SkipAd" option for RNC, Trump ads.
     
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    In the real world, and not the one "US officials" had imagined or hoped would be the case, this is the latest headline on the issue:
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ifth-tanker-headed-to-caribbean-idUSKBN2360RH
    Iranian fuel reaches Venezuelan stations as prices set to rise
     
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    I believe our german news and teh ship was outside venezuealan waters and was dead in the water when it was rammed. It had its engines repaired. One engine was not working and other one made half power.
     
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    Who cares?

    Venezuela cant pay the oil and Iran gives it for free basicly. Two tyrannical regimes exchange nothing for nothing. I wouldnt bother about that.
     
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    I had to look far and wide for the following since Google's policy is to hide anything that goes against Western narratives:

    The Venezuelan Navy has presented clear evidence of the criminal behavior of the Portuguese-flagged passenger ship, RCGS Resolute, in Venezuelan waters without authorization.

    RCGS Resoulte arrived in the Venezuelan sea without authorization and remain in Venezuelan waters for 2 days according to their own account captured in the audio, they ignored the instructions of the Naiguatá coast guard inviting them to dock in Margarita Island for inspection, refused to recognize instructions despite acknowledging in audios that they were indeed in Venezuelan waters without permission, but instead resuming their path towards Curaçao at full steam,” the Navy Admiral pointed out.

    https://www.newcoldwar.org/venezuel...olute-criminal-behavior-on-venezuelan-waters/
     
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    Venezuela has gold mines, but that doesn't excuse the London banks for not giving them their money, especially considering it's needed for the epidemic.
     
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    Isn't that against the law? The censorship on YouTube is unbelievable though. As for google, what it did in the last election, was put anything that was beneficial to the Democrats on the front page, and anything not beneficial further back.
     
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    Well, apparently, the US cares! It pulled all the stops short of piracy (which Iran would have responded to in kind) to prevent this delivery from taking place. And even tried to plant stories about succeeding in its efforts!
    You shouldn't bother with it, but not because of anything you wrote.

    First, I highly doubt Iran was delivering fuel/gasoline (not oil per se) for free. While the US had alleged (with no basis) that Venezuela was using its gold reserves to pay for Iranian deliveries, the deliveries are most likely going to be in the nature of loans. Venezuela has a lot of ways to repay Iran, with interest, down the line. One way it can make partial payment, in fact, is to allow Iranian experts to thoroughly study its F-16 and Su-30 fighter planes:)

    Second, the fuel deliveries are far from nothing for Venezuela: they help offset some of the problems caused for that country by US sanctions, specifically meeting an urgent gasoline shortage they faced. Additionally, they open up an avenue for Venezuela to work with Iran to counter US sanctions in many other areas in the future.

    Finally, the optics from the delivery of fuel by Iran to Venezuela in America's own backyard, helping defeat America's pressure campaign against Madura, itself is worth quite a bit.
     
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    Lol "venezuelan evidence".
     
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    Venezuela is a bancrupted banana republic with starving people and led by a crazy bus driver.

    Iran is a bancrupt terror regime led by a mad and demented old Mullah.

    If you bet on Venezuela to counter sanctions, shows you must be really desperate.
     
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    You add nothing worthwhile to the discussion. Just threw some labels and made some assertions that feed your sense of things.

    Otherwise, what I needed to say on this issue, I have said before.
     
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    No, the thing is, i have no problem with Iran, just stop pushing your agenda on others.

    That Hezbollah bullshit for example. In Germany we dont want this ****. Nothing to do with us. We told Iran multiple times to stop this **** on german soil. Iran did not. So few weeks ago we banned Hezbollah, raided their rooms, confiscated their property. From Iran came then the typical threats.

    We are tired of that ****.
     
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    The ones pushing their agenda on Germany are those which twisted Germany's arm to designate Hezbollah as a terrorist group. I know who they are, if you were honest with yourself, you know who they are too.
     
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    Again that you might understand it.

    Germany gives a **** about muslims and israel. None of our problems. Our soil, our nation. We dont want have anything to do with this ****. When we say to stop Hezbollah activity on our soil, we mean it. You accept it, as you are nothing but guests in our house. We rule in our house. When you are a guest, you behave like a guest.

    You understand now?
     

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