'Very sad': At least 13 people dead after SUV carrying 25 hits semitruck in Southern California

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  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup. We can fix the issue tomorrow. (I'd prefer seriously prohibitive fines.)

    The reason it doesn't happen is that the people who own the congress creatures also love cheap labor.
     
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    Then turn it into the same rat-hole you left, much as Democrats do when they flee the blue state rat-holes they created.
     
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    We have desperately needed "immigration reform" for decades, Chi. We've been drowning in more and more illegal aliens since the late 1960's!

    With the exception of foreign, almost uniquely-trained 'brainiacs' who have exceptional skills needed BY the United States, and verifiable, REAL cases that prove foreign individuals are targeted for murder and hunted by foreign governments, we should put a total freeze on all immigration into our country for an initial period of at least five years.

    But it will never happen. Not even Donald Trump could (or would) make that happen. Democrats would fight it because they keep power by pandering to more and more people being on government welfare programs (and voting Democrat, of course). Republicans would fight it because they want off-the-books cheap labor.

    Now, under Biden/Harris, we're going to get another tsunami of illegals pouring across our southern border... and it has already begun in California and Texas.
     
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    I'm actually beginning to believe these people LOVE Trump, much like the homecoming queen they couldn't have, so like Aesop's fox they console themselves with "oh, she's just a beech". Perhaps they could assuage their longings and persuade him to run as a Democrat in 2024, after all, he was one before he switched over. Just think about it, he could be their "homecoming" king! :rolleyes:
     
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    You need to read the posts that inspired my post in which posters claimed that these illegals were on the way to vote for Demoncrats. You have no problem with Schiest and lies like that being posted?
     
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    Yes! I agree totally! American citizens who knowingly employ illegal aliens should be given mandatory, no-mercy, 'zero-tolerance' prison sentences of not less than ONE FULL YEAR (for a first-offense), plus, be fined $10,000 per illegal alien found on their premises! Repeat offenses should draw far, far worse mandatory punishments....

    American employers have always been at least half the total problem, going all the way back to right after World War II. The other half of the problem is the increasingly radicalized Democrat Party, that started pandering to illegal aliens back in the 1960's with the promise of virtual 'welfare-for-life' handouts in return for their eventual votes after they became 'citizens' (or whatever).

    Now we've got growing swarms of unskilled, impoverished Latino peasants in OUR country, with no real way to get them OUT... and KEEP them out!
     
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    Except that there was no previous "tsunami" of illegals from Mexico, except, maybe, under GWB:

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    Unfortunately, I can't find data under Trump (don't know why, most graphs stop at 2017), so it is hard to discuss without actual evidence. I'd recommend, however, to base policy discussions on actual data rather than feelings. Just saying that there will be tsunami of illegals under Biden doesn't make it so.
     
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    Do you see anywhere where I had anything good to say about illegals? I will help you out the answer is NO!
     
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    It has already begun, Nerd. Border Patrol officials in Brownsville, Laredo, and Eagle Pass, Texas are already seeing swarms arriving and many more are coming. It's just starting, and just wait and see what this will turn into by about late summer! All the America-hating, immigrant-"advocacy" groups have been chewing at the straps, just waiting for Trump to be GONE, and now they're going to give us another big train-riding, bus-topping, swarming surge like we had during 'Messiah' Obama's second term.
    Link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...inors-immigrant-biden-border-rise/4400666001/

    [​IMG]. :banana: -- "Party like it's 2014!"
     
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    Should the flying of foreign flags be banned?? Saint Patrick's day is 14 days away and before this Corvid Schiest Saint Paddy Day parades along with Irish flags were flown by Irish Americanskis and make believe Irish marchers. Should we ban the Irish flag along with the Mexican flag, and the Israeli flag, the flag of Canukistan, and the Gay flag and Trump flag?
     
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    the Israeli flag has traditionally been a symbol of American patriotism.

    newly included is the Trump flag, all others are anti-America.
     
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    LOL! So you are saying that you have nothing good to say about them?
     
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    It's amusing that there is so much arguing about illegal immigrants in this thread, yet not one shred of evidence that these people were illegals.
    Every day, thousands of people cross the border, both ways, to work, deliver, and otherwise do business. They may have been legal migrant workers going to harvest for the day. Most people would be shocked at the increased prices if all immigration were somehow stopped, Immigrants provide an essential service in this country.
    I know there would be a lot more leaky roofs! lol
     
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    I think they love to hate him (Trump), are obsessed with Trump, can't stop thinking about Trump, because they are victims of 4 years of constant perception management and information management from the government media complex. Without some sort of deprogramming, they will be obsessed with Trump for the rest of their lives.
     
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    They way they ran in the video was what could be called a clue.
     
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    "Not a shred of evidence"...? :lonely:

    You may find these stories informative:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/us/california-crash-suv-tractor-trailer-holtville.html
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-dead-multiple-vehicle-crash-California.html
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/02/california-crash-immigrants/
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/us/california-crash-suv-tractor-trailer-holtville.html

    Bear in mind, the phrase, "undocumented immigrant", is lib-speak for illegal alien.
     
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    Stop trying to get the democrats to admit their plan to bring in millions of voters. They are never going to admit it. I wouldn't either if I were them. This is just kind of like one of those silent things where they keep saying "no man, it ain't like that"..next thing you know you have 11 million undocumenteds
     
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    Read my posts and the truth shall be made be made know to you.
     
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    You have got to be sciesting me. The Israeli flag at least in its modern reincarnation was born in 1948 and yes it has been displayed by American Jewish organizations but not in any way intergrated as a symbol of American patriotism. Extremists among the right wing allegeged Christian pseudo kookenberger adopted pro Israeli stances because they believe that will hasten the "End Times". The rightwing extremist self styled Christian kooks are not in any way "traditional" American patriots, they are more like QANON freaks.
     
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    Tragic. The domocrats, however, are highly unlikely to make any meaningful immigration reforms, so allowing these people to exist in limbo is just a different kind of cruel.
     
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    Well said. This post speaks so much truth.
     
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    Oh give me a break. This is absolutely no different than "kids in cages", coyotes running people across the border, or the wall.

    When immigration policy is enforced and there are consequences then it's politically relevant.

    When immigration policy is not enforced and immigrants live I deplorable and unsafe conditions, then it shouldn't be politicized.
     
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    You mean the caravans that were stopped at the border with tear gas and defense of our borders?

    It's really a simple concept.

    If you tell people speed limits won't be enforced, you will see more people speeding. Same with immigration. Those people in Central America absolutely know that enforcement and ability to emigrate is highly dependent on enforcement and who controls Washington.
     
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    https://www.cato.org/blog/president...gration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration
     
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    That's because your own agenda is indefensible and you know it.
     
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