Virginia AG wants to criminalize oral and anal sex

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  1. Montoya

    Montoya Banned

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    Well this comes as no shock that a tea party backed candidate openly supports the criminalization of oral sex and anal sex, even between married couples. Of course he tries to justify this absurdity under the guise of "protecting children" but also successfully fought against any updates to their unconstitutional "crimes against nature law". So just imagine this, going to prison for a year because your wife gave you a BJ and somehow the "small government" of Virginia found out. This is of course his sneaky way of trying to criminalize homosexuality as well. I guess he is a true "liberty loving conservative". How anyone could even attempt to support trash is beyond me. Hopefully the voters in VA have at least some common sense and vote against this theocratic garbage.

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    There is no cure for being Virginian.
     
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    Maybe an upside is women will be more willing to spread their legs, ya know so they don't commit a crime.
     
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    a little honesty would be a good thing

    Let's look at the motivation behind this

    Cuccinelli's new site, vachildpredators.com, highlights 90 people identified as "sexual predators" in Virginia who "would come off Virginia's sex offender registry if a Virginia law ... is not upheld."

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...ti-sodomy-law-article-1.1402340#ixzz2ZmSpzDCC

    So, I guess the headlines we won't see on thinkprogress is

    Liberals want 90 sexual predators removed from sexual predator list in VA because that would be a valid headline
     
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    List their offenses please. If their offense was sodomy, yet they engaged in it with someone who was a minor or child, then the system is broken and needs to be fixed. Why is he not addressing that and instead attempting re-institute a law which makes 99% of the sexually active population criminals?

    This also means that if these 90 people instead had vaginal intercourse with a minor or child. . .they would be free and not sexual predators?

    You don't see something really (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up about that?

    The "90 sexual predators removed from sexual predator" isn't his reason, it is his red herring. He makes that perfectly clear by bringing up homosexuality and SSM, which is his real target.
     
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    If that is really the issue, then why doesn't this guy support modifying the law so that it specifically criminalizes sex acts with minors?

    The reason why they don't want that is because they don't give two (*)(*)(*)(*)s about minors. These Tea Party supported so-called "small government" conservatives want a law that allows them to imprison gays for consensual sex.
     
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    ahhh, so you know his motivation? You want to believe the left spin vs taking his word for it?

    At least you tipped your hand; thank you
     
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    Yes I know the motive, cause your man had stated his motive, “My view is that homosexual acts, not homosexuality, but homosexual acts are wrong. They’re intrinsically wrong. And I think in a natural law based country it’s appropriate to have policies that reflect that. … They don’t comport with natural law.”

    Anything to comment on what I stated previously, such as why is a sexual predator being charged with sodomy instead of rape or molestation charges?

    Why is this man not attempting to address such a gross miscarriage of justice so it does happen again like it apparently had with these 90 people?
     
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    TPs are drawn to this sort of nonsense because it gives them license to talk dirty.



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    "VAGINA!"




    Only the wholesale adoption of sharia law would make the more virulent of the TPs happy.
     
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    I see the statement about the 90 sexual predators who have already been charged. Why do you want them to go free?

    Do you see how that works?
     
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    If these "sexual predators'" crimes are consensual sex with other adults, then why don't you want them to go free?

    If their crimes were against children, then why doesn't this "small government conservative" or yourself support modifying the law so that it only applies to sex acts committed against children?

    The answer is easy for both question: Conservatives want a law that will let them imprison gays for consensual sex.
     
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    And THIS is why conservatives who want the government telling gays what they can and cant do should shut up.
     
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    This is just another example of the GOP's "small government" policies.
     
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    I am curious to know as well.
     
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    how does this become "a gay thing"? 96.6% of adults engage in straight sex while 3.4% of adults engage in all other deviant sex be it gay, cross dressing whatever.

    Do you really believe that oral sex only occurs with the 3.4% ers ?
     
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    You have to love how Liberals pick and choose facts in order to support their ignorant statements. They attempt to subvert the actions of the Governor Candidate's efforts to protect children from sexual predators into being anti gay. Question: Has the State of Virginia prosecuted two adults for engaging in consensual oral or anal sex during Cuccinelli's tenure as the State's Attorney General? Answer: No. Then want is this all about. It is the fact that State Law in Virginia makes it a Misdemeanor for an adult to have sex with a child between the ages 15 and 18. It is about a degenerate individual, by the name of William S. MacDonald, that was married and worked at a Volunteer Fire Department. Two of the Volunteers were a 16 and 17 year old girls. Over a two year period MacDonald got these girls to preform oral sex. While both girls said that the sex acts were consensual, they eventually reported MacDonald's activities to the police. He was convicted of a Misdemeanor of contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and a Felony under the Crimes against Nature law. MacDonald was sentenced to 20 years, with 17 years suspended.

    Recently, a ruling by the 4 judge panel of the 4th District Court of Appeals stated that the Crimes against Nature law was Unconstitutional because it violated the 14th Amendment of Due Process. This was based on a Supreme court ruling issued on 2003 in the case of Lawrence v Texas. Cuccinelli, acting as any good State AG should, has requested that the entire 15-judge 4th District hear the case. The one dissenting judge in the courts original decision pointed out that Lawrence only applied to consenting adults. The MacDonald case dealt with underage women.

    Since the ruling, Cuccinelli has started a website to identify 90 people that would be removed from the States Sexual Predator listings because of the Appeal Courts ruling.

    Cuccinelli's activities is not directed against consensual adults gay or straight. It is about using the tools available to punish Adults for having sex with underage boys and girls. I for one salute his efforts.
     
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    Anal sex is extremely unhealthy regardless of sexual orientation. It has gained popular favor in response to the outright assault of pornography that now pervades pop culture, but it's disgusting and very bad for the recipient.

    Funny, we always kill ourselves with sexual depravity.
     
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    I see, so since YOU think its bad it should be a criminal offense? Thats "freedom" right?
     
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    Um duh, because once you let the government tell one group what sex they may participate in you open the door for them to tell ANY group what sex they may have, or whom they marry.

    Is common sense gone around here or what?

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    Welcome to America, where people should have the right to be as sexually depraved as they like within a consensual relationship.
     
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    I don't THINK it's bad, it is bad. There's a reason sh!t stinks. Or did you not know that?

    I'm not talking about law, I'm talking about sexual deviance.
     
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    No sorry he has stated openly he wishes to criminalize homosexual acts and oral sex even with consenting adults. You cannot spin this no matter how many links or opinions you give.

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    No sorry he has stated openly he wishes to criminalize homosexual acts and oral sex even with consenting adults. You cannot spin this no matter how many links or opinions you give.

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    Regardless its none of your business at all what two consenting adults do.
     
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    True, I also know it's gone into the realm of insanity that such a repellent act has become normalized by much of society. People who scew each other in the ass have bigger problems than what I think of them. Much bigger.
     
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    Much like the smokers, this is for your own good. Unhealthy habits and all that.

    http://www.webmd.com/sex/anal-sex-health-concerns

    It's for your own good people. Everyone else has to pay for your habits....insert any other argument currently used to inconvenience, and steal from people who choose to smoke. :wink:
     
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    That only reference is to a sexual predator list, not to anyone going free. I looks like these 90 people he is referencing may have been consenting adults charged with sodomy and labeled as sexual predators, which makes his argument even crazier.
     
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    Reading fail. It is criminal now. He wishes to leave it alone because of the sex offenders who were convicted of it. Sodomy law has always included both acts, considered buggery from common law, in Virginia. It is not used to target homosexuals... it is the crime they were convicted of. Creating NEW laws do not justify the registry persistence because they were not convicted of these crimes.

    I am unaware of the law ever bringing adults, gay or straight, to trial except in cases of rape.

    It ain't broke, don't fix it.
     

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