Virus rebels from France to Florida flout lockdown practices

Apparently we dont have the ability due to offshoring to manufactute enough tests to do what south korea did nor is our current culture mature enough to do what should be done to combat a pandemic.

For some reason our people are not taught simple responsibility .towards others. It has been like this for decades. Sickening.

 

Marxist Leftists , the ones pushing the Globalist nightmare of a Techocracy are the greatest threat to humanity since Mao killed over 100 million of his own people

 

Who are these people ?

The people with the power are western elites and if you think they want their wealth taken away you need to think again.

Any move to marxism would come from the bottom not the top.

This marxist global movemevt you hear from the fringe right is nonsensr nonsense. The rich and powerful dont give their wealth away! ! Lol And in the west the rich elites own govt.

As I said this is the fringr frinfringe right delusion and very hard to understand how they think it.

But then they dont understand that Marxism is involved with the state owning all business. And call any state with a commons socialism even when the econony is pure capitalusm ! Lol But such is delusional thinking created perhaps by a flawed ideology that does not use proper defitions of words.

 

Communism has always been the preferred government of economic concentration. Go read the plight of Soviet Russia. While Stalin feasted, the famine in all of the Russian governed areas led to a total of 40 million dead, or two Hitler holocausts. Or the great Chinese famine. Or Kim Jong, he's fine but his North Korean captives(I mean citizens?) not so much.

It is the great lie that Communism is for the little guy. It's for the oligarch, it's for the rich and for the connected.

 

This is one reason S. Korea was so successful. Instead of devolving into a bunch of crybabies(which are luckily a minority here) foolishly thinking this is about their rights or the sudden onset of communism, they did what was necessary, on their own.

 

Well some people see communism everywhere. Lol .Hell they called obama a commie when it is clear he was owned by wall st. And they aint communists! Lol

With individualism there must be great responsibility towards others otherwise it is nothing but another term for irresonsible selfishness.

These people would not have served America well in ww2 when it was no picnic. They would have marched to protest gas rationing because they couldnt drive to the beach anytime they wanted . Their liberty was being attacked !!

 

Those people that cough at old people, or brandish guns, and threaten to jail Democrats, should be LOCKED in Covid 19 wards, or Punished, by courts, to work in covid 19 wards. The folks they are threatening, are the healthcare workers, and vulnerables. Let them be required to pay back those they harmed.

 

You get concentration of wealth in marxism but also capitalism But you get more wealth to be concentrated in capitalism. We have seen one form of capitalism create history's largest middle in America . You dont get a middle in marxism . Nor do their elites at the top have as much wealth as capitalists.

So choosing marxism over capitalism for the elites is stupid. And western elites would be idiots to do that. And these people are not idiots .

I think it is as simple as that . The danger of marxism comes from the bottom as fdr saw when the bottom is hopeless and suffering like hell. WWithcapitalism , its perceived excesses being blamed .

History has shown marxism to be a pipe dream and it has never created prosperity for non elites. While we have seen that capitalism can indeed do that if regulated and used to create prosperity for non elites while still having rich elites . Yet it can also not create a large middle and we have seen both forms of it in my life time of 76 years. That is what some dont recognize imo.

I just dont see this commie movement that the right side fears and is obsessed with . In fact I see a movement to oligarchy or fascism and the Princeton study evidenced that using 2 decades of congressional record. Only elites get represented in DC. That was not always the case .

 

I agree. Their anger would be much more understandable if these types of orders were just being foisted on us out of the blue. As if the purpose of them isn't to combat a pandemic, but to confine Americans in their homes and make them all wear masks and stay away from each other...for no apparent reason. No ******n discernible reason, at all. Nobody wins with this, except Amazon and Netflix and I don't see folks blaming it on them.

I saw one guy on my local county COVID-19 Facebook page that he was currently wearings masks, but would stop because the governor of PA made it mandatory when in public. He was going to do the right thing for the people around him, at only a minor inconvenience to himself, but now he's not. Because the government told everyone to do something he was already doing. I get that it feels like we shouldn't be getting told to do these types of things, but that has to be tempered with the what and why behind the orders as well. This is not the sudden onset of communism. This is how a nation fights a pandemic.

When we are not in a situation where all 50 states have a declared state of emergency things will readjust.

 

We 'hope' things will readjust. The reactions are a good thing, it means we're not totally braindead to what the Framers told us about the expanse of government and how we should be wary of such. If things don't 'readjust', I hope more speak out. The necessity of the danger cannot override the rights and freedoms of the people in the country.

Or as Trump more bluntly put it: The cure can't be worse than the disease. He's right about that, no matter how unpoetic or "cold" it sounds.

 

You get concentration of wealth in marxism but also capitalism But you get more wealth to be concentrated in capitalism. We have seen one form of capitalism create history's largest middle in America . You dont get a middle in marxism . Nor do their elites at the top have as much wealth as capitalists.

So choosing marxism over capitalism for the elites is stupid. And western elites would be idiots to do that. And these people are not idiots .

I think it is as simple as that . The danger of marxism comes from the bottom as fdr saw when the bottom is hopeless and suffering like hell. WWithcapitalism , its perceived excesses being blamed .

History has shown marxism to be a pipe dream and it has never created prosperity for non elites. While we have seen that capitalism can indeed do that if regulated and used to create prosperity for non elites while still having rich elites . Yet it can also not create a large middle and we have seen both forms of it in my life time of 76 years. That is what some dont recognize imo.

I just dont see this commie movement that the right side fears and is obsessed with . In fact I see a movement to oligarchy or fascism and the Princeton study evidenced that using 2 decades of congressional record. Only elites get represented in DC. That was not always the case

And these elites want capitalusm to only serve them and no one else. And they got what they wanted as it put America into a managed decline for relative short term max profits

 

What do you mean by "threaten to jail Democrats"? How is questioning the morality of a government-enforced mass lockup a threat to Democrats? And what part of my post equates to a moral justification of purposely infecting someone and threatening force against political enemies.

 

The right wing idiots, brandishing guns, were yelling to LOCK HER UP, referring to the governor. They are threatening a sworn government official.

The right wingers don't question the morality of wiping out a generation of elderly, with lets get it over with antics. they question whether we should even count the deaths of those over 80. Dr Oz calls it APPETIZING, that overall, when said and done, it only cost us 2 to 3 % of our children DEAD.

The morality of the right wing is abhorrent.

 

"Lock her up?" Unnecessary. Citizen's recall, and/or voting her out of office? Likely to happen. What these governors showed in the east coast to the mid west, is that they shouldn't have had the right to govern in the first place. Compare the pragmatism of Abott and De Santis, to the disgrace that is Whitmer.

This is why "Trump resistance" is an epic fail, you picked underqualified, nonexperienced candidates who are in over their heads(see: Tlaib in Detroit's 13th district) and now the people are even more devoid of any actual representation.

Thank god for the coronavirus in this respect. If they governed this way during a pandemic, they surely would in peace time. It's the epic clean out that we need. No more electing people because they have breasts and an uterus instead of a penile shaft, or because one has a hijab over their head instead of a hat. Or that one's gay/lesbian instead of being straight.

PURE, political qualifications. And if your ideas aren't good enough to win 50+1? Well then that's just some tough ****, because to quote Liberals: It's not about you. It's about others.

Those others, are not represented by the Justice Democrats. They're being brutally ignored, even more than a Trump presidency.

 

He reminds me of long ago when my kids were teens. Lol My grown kids face the same today from their teens! Lol

We expect juveniles to behave in this manner but not grownups. Lol

Yet there are people in my family at least one step daughter going on 40 that is acting like a juvenile risking her mom that is my wife. Which puts me at risk . I am changing my will once I can get out again . Her sister will still be included along with my daughters The excluded one would blow it on meth anyways . If she doesnt care enough for her mother to protect her by following common sense protocol she doesnt deserve what I worked so hard for to save up to help out my kids and my wifes kids . And grandkids.

 

I agree. We do accept limitations to freedom in certain situations. We always have. This is a new situation and one that we as a country can fully understand(in contrast to 191, so I don't think it's outrageous to adopt temporary restrictions that essential to what needs to be done. As long as they are temporary.

But I suspect we will see a spate of new legislation at local, state, and federal levels to deal with future problems like this. I mean our state constitution didn't even consider a pandemic as an emergency situation, at least not specifically.

Trump's phrase has an inherent problem with it's logic.

Since we tried to cure the disease, we don't know what the disease without the cure would be like. We only know what the disease with the cure applied turned out to be, so when he implies that the "disease" might not be as bad, he's talking about it after it had already had the cure applied. We have no baseline for the disease in his metaphor that hasn't been mitigated by the cure.

 

When government tyrants threaten liberty, it is best one channel one's Patrick Henry--death is not a justification for locking up the living. With that being said, protest? Yes. Revolution? Not at this time. Keep your guns at home, Americans. Keep your guns at home. Revolution is not an action to take lightly.

 

These guys took advantage of the situation to run outside and wave their, uh, 'weapons' around for all to see. What we all saw was their naked desire to intimidate and inflict themselves on a society in pain and doubt. They exposed themselves and their tiny egos and now we know them clearly for who and what they are.

 

They unfortunately, think they are the NEOfounding fathers, ushering in a new GLORIOUS era of American Dominance. They feel they are heroic, and SELFLESS. They would tell you this. And do, endlessly. They find others, that they deem not as robust, intelligent and driven, to elevate themselves above their neighbor. While YOU see their tiny phallis, their tiny ego, their need to domineer to feel potent, and laugh at all the commercials, meant to goad their macho, they feel you are a pajamaboy. They will fight you for every ounce of good manners, care for neighbor and reserve. We are in the midst of a soft civil war. I fear for the things they will do, when they are ousted, and kicked to the background. The guns will be involved. They often talk about the inevitability of the gentile, taking over, and cutting off their balls, and how they will never let that happen. We will have a hot civil war at that point. Could be shortly after nov.

 

A lot of name calling, but no intelligence.