Volunteerism is over twenty percent of North American economy… could organizing it...

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  1. DennisTate

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    I am seriously impressed..... even several States are discussing this option!


    http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/17/pf/local_currency/index.htm?iid=F_Jump

     
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    Now this is intriguing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://people.virginia.edu/~ms3uf/brock/brock34.htm

    The Colonial Currency, Prices, and Exchange Rates

    Leslie V. Brock
    Professor Emeritus of History, College of Idaho
    with Introductory Comments by
    Ron Michener, Associate Professor
    Department of Economics, University of Virginia
     
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    Yes....... but what if an extremely famous person were to promote a micro nation Volunteerism Hour and use it to begin the financing of a "Cyrus style treaty" with the nation of Israel?

    What if a significant percentage of Israelis were willing to accept this new currency..... due to the way that they liked how it was plugged into a number of initiatives that were all connected.... and all of those initiatives were win - win - win - win for the nation of Israel and for the Jewish people????


    https://www.facebook.com/notes/dann...onald-trump-volunteerism-hour/650392121762355


    A Dannion Brinkley or a DONALD TRUMP, "Volunteerism Hour?"

    Some extremely well informed people are worried about a serious devaluation of the USA dollar.




    One of the most logical ways to back up, insure, and stabilize the value of the dollar may be to take another look at how successful the Worgl, Austria local money experiment was in the USA during the Great Depression?

    http://www.whatcomwatch.org/php/WW_open.php?id=717

    "Alternative Currency in the U.S.

    President Franklin Roosevelt faced a very different set of circumstances at that time than we do now. In his time, the Russian Revolution was only two decades old but in 2015, the Iron Curtain has already fallen. In the year 2017 a truly wise President of the United States would not nail himself or herself down to unthinkingly taking the same approach that FDR took regarding local currencies or a new "Volunteerism Hour" that could more easily be understood by people in virtually every nation on earth.




    Mr. Dannion Brinkley is clearly one of the most humble and active volunteers in America.




    What he and his 5000 plus helpers have done for our veterans through "The Twilight Brigade" is PRICELESS!

    The attitude, compassion and LOVE that Dannion and other volunteers are showing for our veterans is the kind of TRUE GOLD.... that can back up a new currency unit that could revitalize not only the economy of the USA, but it can be expanded even into South America, Central America and Mexico so that the level of desperation to make it to the USA is decreased as economic conditions are improved throughout each region.
     
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    I haven't given up on this basic idea.....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...servative-party-volunteerism-hour-dollar.html

    Proposal for the creation of a Conservative Party Volunteerism Hour or Dollar.


     
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    First of all, you are not a Gentile, you are a genuine Messianic Jew.
    By virtue of the Essau covenant, you are no longer a Gentile.

    Your idea of currency needs one simple modification so to be legal anywhere, first, it is not currency, it is discounts and loans or promissory notes, they represent a face value, for instance, I mow your lawns you write me a coupon that represents 30 credits.

    I run to the supermarket and buy 30 (Dollars) credits worth of groceries, see ?

    Perfectly legal, as it is legal to give stuff away, except in this case, a promise is exchanged for goods and services, not cash, this system works fine and no currency laws are violated.
     
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    Another example, I want to do landscaping and mow lawns etc.....
    You have a truck and mower you do not use, I write you a coupon for the amount you want for your equipment, and you can use that coupon to obtain stuff you need.

    I agree to do additional work for you mowing and landscaping, everything's paid with coupons you write.
     
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    This is a perfect example of how this can work......
     
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    Volunteer - one who renders a service without payment. Its a one way transaction, it is fundamentally inconsistent with things like "Ithaca hours".

    Getting the government involved in "organizing" volunteerism is the best way to kill volunteerism. Imagine all the govt imposed training and regulations you will have to meet to simply volunteer.

    And it wont be long before unions try to step in and "organize". Instant death to volunteerism.
     
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    Good points.... I was actually hoping to have volunteerism
    organized by a group more like the people on Shark Tank or Dragon's Den.

    Those people have thousands of employees.....many of who do a large amount of volunteerism that
    could be organized, programmed into a database....and improved for effectiveness.
     
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    The reason volunteerism works so well is because it is controlled at the individual and local level. If you volunteer, you see first hand what your time and money is being used to do, if you disagree with that use then you leave and volunteer elsewhere. As soon as you start inserting middlemen then the process starts to falter.
     
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    That is an excellent point.....
    for the record..... my apologies for any statements that I made on this topic that
    are not fully accurate.

    Just yesterday evening I found a great interview with an amazingly patient economist who
    is taking the time to explain these things to me in such a way that I can actually get what
    he is saying.

    https://www.facebook.com/RealProgressive/videos/1729521777377245/?__mref=message
    Live with good friend and fellow MMT aficionado, Chris Brown


    Chris Brown:
    "It's really important to follow that interest and learn whose actually earning it . In the US 1/3 of the interest is given back to the government, 1/3 of the interest is earned by people in the private sector and 1/3 of the interest is earned by the foreign sector.
    The Fed gives back 94% of all of it's profits back to the US government. Last year that was $100 billion dollars


    So lots of interest is earned as income by people like me. 10% of my retirement is in bonds, so when the government pays higher interest I have more money for retirement
    The government's spending is someone else's income" (Chris Brown)
     
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    It is illegal to avoid paying taxes on them.......
    We Canadians must claim what we earn in Calgary Dollars and pay taxes on them just as if we had earned Canadians dollars but...... they are quite legal and are widely used within Calgary.

    The local city government of Calgary now accepts Calgary Dollars for fifty percent of the price of various permits that they sell.

    www.CalgaryDollars.ca/


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    I have a relatively simple fix in mind.........
    well actually it is dozens and dozens of relatively simple ideas combined......
    in a manner that can appear somewhat complicated at first........



    P. M. Netanyahu, President Trump has a 4.3 trillion dollar problem....
     

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