Votes matter in Germany

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Meanwhile, in our great country, some Democrat or Republican clown gets a close majority (or even a high minority in Trump's case) of the popular vote, and bam, total win and control. It's basically the same for congresscritters, who again win their race and take the seat, with every other vote basically going nowhere and doing nothing. Minority political positions have no representation in our country.
     
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    Wait until the Muslim migrants start voting in Germany. I don't think they can vote without citizenship, but if it's anything like the USA, their children can.
     
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    I live in Germany. Germany and the US have very different voting systems as well as very different political landscapes.
    It's not an "either-this-or-that" bipartisan system here. It's considerably more diverse. Whether that's better or worse is probably very subjective.
    Today's Saarland election is not the most important one as the Saarland is one of the really small states here, but I'm a bit surprised to see the conservative CDU getting 40,4% of the votes, that was not to be expected. The are extremely likely to continue their coalition with the SPD.

    You are only allowed to vote in a state election like this if you're a German citizen. Offspring of immigrants do not automatically have citizenship and can therefore not automatically vote. Even the fact that a person was born in Germany (to non-German parents) doesn't make them a natural citizen with the right to vote; it's different to the US.
    EU-citizens are allowed to participate in EU and municipal elections (e.g. a French living in Germany, a Dutch living in Spain, etc.).
    5,4% of the the population here are Muslims, I don't see how that can have a significant impact in one way or another.
     
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    Our system is republican not democratic for a reason. It avoids the tyranny of larger states over smaller. Trump won more states thus he won. It is not a perfect system but id preferred over us just having Texas, California, and a few other states always deciding who is President.
     
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    SPD have already win thus Campaigns ?!
     
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    Germany democracy is interesting, but more the institutionnal systeme, what is really important in germany is that german don't accept corrupted leaders. Two ministers had already to resign because they cheated on their phd thesis.

    One of the most interesting democratic system in the world is probably swiss one. He is may be not perfect, but he is the one allowing the most democratic controle for people.

    What I don't like in german democratic system, it's because of logical historical reasons, german fear democracy. They are the main actor fo the loss of sovereinty in europe and they forbid referendum in their constitution.
     
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    At least 800,000 non-citizens voted in the USA, most for Clinton.
     
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    Citizenship is so 20th century.

    Liberals want all residents to vote, regardless of citizenship.
     
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    And why Hillary lost. At least this country has not completely lost its collective mind.
     
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    Liberals want every human on earth to get a vote in the US even if they live an ocean away from the nation having election's because they want a one world government system.

    They don't give a darn about laws unless they deal with the right to bear arms or to speak freely. Then suddenly out of the woodwork's they come like an angry mob to enforce any law they can dealing with gun owners or people that disagree with them.
     
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    So the minority should rule the majority?
     
  12. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't know how you could take that message away from this. I can only assume that you purposely refuse to understand what I've presented.
     
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    You're not likely to change the process so you might as well accept it or move elsewhere.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Good thing people didn't say that in 1776, eh?
     
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    I like your system better. Our two party system is a real problem. It's like to bulls leading each other by the nose to the slaughterhouse.
     
  16. AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS

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    Bravo, what a great post!!
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    lol

    Right wing trolls. They try so hard and fail so comedically. :clapping:
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Right, that's why we control vastly more government than the leftists who are on their biggest losing streak ever..
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Lots of stupid voters out there. Sad but true.
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, the low IQ groups in cities that keep voting left even though their lives just get worse and worse off..

    You want to get into a debate about what voting blocks are more and less intelligent?
     
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  21. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    They're all herd animals.
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Just what the left wants and we are not about to let them have it.
     
  23. Durandal

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    You're a herd animal, bleating about "the left".
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    man was that crafty..
     
  25. Durandal

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    Telling it like it is. There are lots of herd animals on this forum, constantly bleating about the herd they're not in.
     

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