Vox entertains "Socialist Nationalism". Sign of the Left embracing fascism?

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  1. Yakamaru

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    Then exactly how do you account Antifa attacking right wing extremists???They are ANTI FASCIST?????
     
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    ANTIFA is as much anti-fascist as North Korea(Democratic People's Republic of Korea) is democratic. It's in name only.

    Actions speak vastly louder than words.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...a-as-a-domestic-terrorist-organization.558981
    ANTIFA have shown time and time again to behave like domestic terrorists, and it won't be long before these black bloc thugs are being dealt with properly.
     
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    We will never be a socialist nation, nor a communist nation.

    Here's what those ideologies do to people...watch to the very end.
     
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    Then why aren't Antifa attacking each other since Antifa are fascist ?

    "The final analysis, it can accurately be said that the Antifa communists and anarchists who so passionately denounce fascism, are quite literally fascists themselves."
    https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/organizations/antifa/
     
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    You might have a point if they were attacking neo nazis. Unfotunately they are attacking almost anyone slightly to the right of Ho Chi Min. They tend to avoid people that might actually fight back or are at least so small in number that they can't easily find them.

    The difference between the far left and fascists is largely a figment of leftist imagination.
     
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    Because they don't see themselves as fascist. They don't see anything wrong with what they are doing. That's what makes them so dangerous.
     
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    How sweet would it be if the nationalist and internationalist socialists turned on each other?

    They seem dumb enough that its a possibility.
     
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    ^ needs repeating.
     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...law-made-for-kkk-to-arrest-racism-protesters/
    I know it's WaPo.

    Here's one from The Hill.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/396404-unmasking-antifa-act-includes-15-year-prison-term-proposal

    But the law pertaining to de-masking KKK members in public will most likely be extended to include ANTIFA too due to all the violence and property damages done by ANTIFA.

    Another thing with ANTIFA: They believe themselves to be morally correct. That anyone who don't agree with them are just wrong and must be dealt with.

    They are in fact doing nothing but projecting their own delusions onto people.

    ANTIFA is what happens when you live in an idealistic world, completely cut out from reality.
     
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    Keep in mind that these are people who will aggressively attack you if you look suspicious to them. Anyone who isn't far left is cautious of Antifa for good reasons.

    It's good to be against legitimate fascism and Nazis, but it's another to attack random people on the street, including religious and ethnic minorities, which Antifa is well known for doing multiple times.
     
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    The de-masking law that have been proposed and on top of that the proposition by Ted Cruz to officially label ANTIFA a domestic terrorist group/organization is going to cause.. Quite a stir for some people we know if or when they get passed. And boy is it going to cause quite a stir indeed.

    I like how ANTIFA isn't even a thing over here.
     
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    Hitler with his genocide of the Jews is not the only brand of fascism, a branch of Socialism. Today, fascists on the Left are far more akin to Italian Fascism than German Fascism, though they are deeply steeped in antisemitism.

    Italian Fascism controlled society by controlling the corporatist economic system with employer and employee syndicates linked together in associations to collectively represent the nation's economic producers and work alongside the state to set national economic policy. This economic system intended to resolve class conflict through collaboration between the classes.

    Italian Fascism denounced individual freedom and liberty as "the debacle of individualism." They saw all individuals as a servants to the State.

    We can see the Left steadily working to incorporate fascism into US society. In Fascist Italy their control of society through the control of corporations was describe as the 3rd way as opposed to American Individual Liberty and Free Markets and Soviet Marxism.

    State permission was required for almost any business activity, such as ending employment or expanding a factory. All wages were set by the government. However, restrictions on labor were greater. While corporations still could earn profits, Italian Fascism supported criminalization of strikes by employees and lockouts by employers as illegal acts it deemed as prejudicial to the national community as a whole. Similar to the Bolsheviks in Soviet Russia, Mussolini nationalized all independent trade unions into one government-operated syndicate, mandating union membership for every worker.

    As the Left strangles American Corporations with regulation, and works to regulates the pay rates of free Americans, don't think they are making up a new playbook, this are old vile discredited ideas that these empty headed morons, who are ignorant of history, think are cutting edge fresh concepts.
     
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    Make up yer mind the left either hates America or is it nationalistic?
     

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