Waffen SS Tribute

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  1. Bleipriester

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    As long as photos like this one "prove" it, we have no need to discuss:

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    The soldiers are apparently not aming at that woman, they do not wear German uniforms and the length of the soldier´s legs compared with his size advises that the whole thing is a photomontage.

    The pictures of execution just show the execution. Maybe you forget that it was allowed to kill up to 100 citizens for every soldier, who was killed by non regular forces. Not only the Germans used this.
     
  2. John Sholtes

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    Epic: The Story of the Waffen SS
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    Epic: The Story of the Waffen SS
    LEON DEGRELLE
    Introduction
    You are about to hear Leon Degrelle, who before the Second World War was Europe's youngest political leader and the founder of the Rexist Party of Belgium. During that cataclysmic confrontation he was one of the greatest heroes on the Eastern Front. Of Leon Degrelle Hitler said: "If I should have a son I would like him to be like Leon."

    I hope that least a few of you will take the time to read this.




    Ladies and Gentlemen:

    I am asked to talk to you about the great unknown of World War Two: the Waffen SS.



    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v03/v03p441_Degrelle.html
     
  3. Hoosier8

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    There is no doubt the soldiers of the German Army took their duty seriously and performed admirably. Unfortunately the Waffen SS, not part of the Heer, is tainted by the racism of the SS.

    Germans fought with an intensity and had superior equipment in many cases. They were just outgunned in the long run.
     
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    I'm for holding all people and leaders of the world to the same standard. As long as Hitler and the 3rdReich are held to the same level of scrutiny as Stalin and the CCCP, which rarely happens, then I don't have a problem. As far as all the stats about how many were killed here and there in the WW2 era, there is so much propaganda and political bull**** that I'm not going to accept any number as gospel truth. As far as atrocities commited by the SS, well anyone can make up any story and the world will drink it up like Kool-Aid in Jonestown.

    As for the Stalin apologists here, why don't you demand that Putin release all the records from the NKVD, KGB, gulags and war records from the Soviet Union. Remember, the Kaytn Forest Massacre was brought up at the Nurembug Tribunal---but nothing was done about it.

    On moral grounds, how was Stalin and better than Hitler before 1940? Compared to the lands Hitler occupied and the people he placed under his boot, how was Stalin so much superior? Please include invasions of the Baltic states, Belorussia, Finland, the Ukraine and other parts of Poland, which he invaded in 1939 along with Hitler. Also include the Holomador and just make up a number Stalin starved to death (up to 12 million).

    Why didn't our greatest leaders from our "greatest generation," Churchill & Friends, declare war on the Soviet Union after they attacked later in September 1939? I know the answers, do you?
     
  5. John Sholtes

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    Saturday, October 8, 2011
    When the Third Reich came to the aid of Greece...




    Our news media currently bring up the probability of a Greek default. Sometimes, inspired by a deformed history of the Second World War, they also echo recriminations and claims against Germany, and even present Chancellor Angela Merkel in caricatures as a new Hitler. It therefore seems of interest to review an aspect of the behaviour, during that war, of Germany, occupying power, with regard to Greece, from which the Germans had chased out the British in April 1941.


    The reality is that in the midst of the worldwide conflict, despite a partisan war and a maritime blockade enforced by the British, Germany sent Greece large quantities of gold in order to quell a catastrophic inflation and to stabilise the Greek currency, efforts that were not without success.
    She also sent foodstuffs to Greece so as to stave off a threatening famine, as well as German export goods – and this despite the shortages the German people were beginning to suffer.
    Through the intermediary of Sweden, a neutral country, she entered into contact with the British authorities, whom she in the end got to lift the blockade of Greek waters in favour of a Swedish ship loaded with German provisions, which was thus able, each month, to sail from Trieste or Venice and reach Piraeus, the port of Athens, without running the risk of being torpedoed.


    At least Baron van Moyland, former Reich foreign secretary, recalled and declared as much to the judges at the Nuremberg tribunal on March 27, 1946, without being contradicted by the adversary.


    (According to the official documents of the trial before the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg: IMT, volume X, p. 119 and volume XI, p. 428-432; passages reproduced below.)


    IMT Volume X [p. 119]


    27 March 1946 Morning Session


    DR. HORN: Witness, you knew Count Ciano. Where and when did you meet him?


    VON STEENGRACHT: I knew Count Ciano but not in a political sense, only personally. I cannot remember exactly when I met him; probably it was on the occasion of a state visit. I was working at the time in the Protocol Department in the Foreign Office.


    DR. HORN: What experiences did you have with Count Ciano?


    VON STEENGRACHT: Since I did not work with him politically, I had no political experience with him.


    DR. HORN: Now, another matter. Is it correct that Herr Von Ribbentrop gave orders that under all circumstances the French franc should be sustained against inflation?


    VON STEENGRACHT: Such measures can apply only to a time when I was not yet State Secretary. But I know that the basic attitude towards France and all occupied territories was that under all circumstances their currency was to be preserved as far as possible, or rather should be preserved by all means. That is why we often sent gold to Greece in order to attempt to maintain the value of the currency there to some extent.


    DR. HORN: What was accomplished in Greece by sending this gold there?


    VON STEENGRACHT: By sending gold to Greece we lowered the rate of exchange of foreign currencies. Thus the Greek merchants who had hoarded food to a large extent, became frightened and threw the food on the market, and in this way it was made available to the Greek population again.


    DR. HORN: Is it correct that Von Ribbentrop gave strictest orders not to undertake any confiscation in occupied territories but to deal directly only with their governments?


    VON STEENGRACHT: If you put the question like that, it is basically correct, but I say, as I said yesterday, that in principle we had no functions at all in the occupied territories, therefore no Power to confiscate, nor was such power within the jurisdiction of other agencies; but it is correct that we negotiated only with the


    [p. 120]


    foreign governments and that Von Ribbentrop had most strictly forbidden us to support any direct measures concerning an occupied country which were carried out by other departments.


    DR. HORN: For the time being I have no further questions to put to this witness.

    http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/2011/10/third-reich-came-to-aid-of-greece.html
     
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    There aren't any Stalin apologists here. Just Nazi scum. Nazi scum are very good at attacking women and children. When they show up with their big boots on in any sort of numbers in a public place, they very soon run away from the massed ranks of anti-fascists who look to smash their faces into the pavement. Nazis - including the Waffen SS - were murderers and cowards. Their admirers today are even more so the same.
     
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    If all history is included, one might might include the Mongols just for ground gained, the Roman soldier circa Julius Ceasar, the Macedonian soldiers under Alexander and the Spartans just for size/effectiveness. The Waffen SS were better than average and well equipped, but the Russians had equivalent less equipped troops and the US had airborne troops that were superior, most notably the 101 st. and the Rangers.
     
  10. John Sholtes

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    I came across a book by Otto Skorzeny: "Meine Kommandounternehmen" (My Commando Adventures). Otto Skorzeny was the famous German SS-Standartenführer and Führer of the SS-Jagdverbände and the pilot who rescued Mussolini from Gran Sasso. Skorzeny writes in his book about a conversation he had with Hitler regarding the atom bomb. Here is what Hitler said: "Do you know Mr Skorzeny, that the energy which will be freed through the splitting of the atom's nucleus and the additional radioactivity from such a bomb might destroy our planet? .... The effects would be dreadful. Even if one could control the radioactivity and could use atom splitting as a weapon the results would be dreadful. When Dr. Todt visited me I read that the energy set free by such a bomb could destroy the whole of Arizona or make as big a crater as the meteor had caused in Siberia. That means that all life within such an area would be destroyed, not only humans but all life. Animals and plants would not be able to live within a radius of 40 km for hundreds of years due to radiation. That would mean an Apocalypse. No land, no group of civilized people could bear the responsibility for such a slaughter. In battle after battle human beings would destroy themselves if such a bomb were used. Only in remote places like Amazonia and the jungles of Sumatra would people have a chance of surviving such a bomb."

    The truth came to me in connection with the world's 50th anniversary celebration of the first atom bomb over Hiroshima. I followed part of the celebration on TV and thought: "How can anyone celebrate the killing of more than 200.000 humans?" My answer was: "Only if Jews were behind the bomb would such a celebration be possible."
     
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    What's this? Nazi fan fiction?
     
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    We have had enough of your NAZI fiction. It is time for some NAZI truth.

    Here is some more facts that everbody should know. Last night a WWII vet was on CNN talking about a vet center that could not open because of budget cuts. He was shot down over Germany and was kept as a POW for 11 months. That is a lot more than you can say for the 1.2 million German POW's who were left in a muddy cold fenced in area to die of thirst starvation and hypothermia by the jew Dwight Eisenhower, or the 2.5 million killed by the Ally Red Army in Russia.

    When the Waffen SS drove the Brits to Dunkirk they could have easily slaughtered all of them but instead allowed them to evacuate back to England. So wipe that silly smile off your face and face the facts.
     
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    So glad that here in America that freedom of speech allows even Hitler lovers to kiss his vile genocidal butt.
     
  14. Durandal

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    You mean here are facts. See, plural nouns take a plural verb form.

    School, America. Quit defunding it!
     
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    The Wermacht drove the Brits to Dunkirk...the SS were just a small part of the German war machine.

    And the reason why they didn't destroy the British is because Hitler was a maniac and Goerring an overblown idiot.

    Face the facts.

    You worship a monster.
     
  16. John Sholtes

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    Not really here is just one example of the Institute for Historica review was bombed by Zionist terrorists and nothing was done. Most people or groups trying to get out information about the Jews controlling the media, Hollywood the financial system and world government are in jail or have been assinated. It is only recently that the internet has allowed such expression but many videos websites and articles have been deleted by the ever increasing jewish control of the intermet. I myself have been attacked many times and I was put in jail for investigating murders such as Astara Evenstar and Laura Vogel two daughters of Odin and my life has been threatened for posting about it on the intermnet. My website was hijacked by a jew and taken over so I could not even post any more. So I took it down. If it was up to you none of us would be given any voice at all. I am gratefull that politicalforum.com still allows all points of view. Only facts will prevail in any argument but it seems that you can't come up with any.

    By the way the Institute for Historical Review was bombed causing over $400,000 in damage and the loss of thousands of Historical books and documents. Of course nobody got punished.

    I'm sure some of you came to this post to study history and not to read predjudiced rants.

    Epic Story of the Waffen SS

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v03/v03p441_Degrelle.html

    By the way the Institute for Historical Review was bombed causing over $400,000 in damage and the loss of thousands of Historical books and documents. Of course nobody got punished.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/terrorism/255288-zionist-terror-network.html
     
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    Sepp Dietrich and his troops have now crossed the French canals, but are pinned down by the enemy in a mud field, and just manage to avoid extermination. But despite the loss of many soldiers, officers and one battalion commander, all killed in action, the Germans reach Dunkirk.

    Hitler is very proud of them.

    The following week, Hitler deploys them along the Somme River, from which they will pour out across France. There again, the SS will prove itself to be the best fighting force in the world. Sepp Dietrich and the 2nd Division of the SS, Totenkopf, advance so far so fast they they even lose contact with the rest of the Army for three days.

    They found themselves in Lyon, France, a city they had to leave after the French-German peace treaty.
     
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    They spared the troops because Hitler was still hoping to include the Brits in his glorious Aryan future.
     
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    Look at Britain today the Ayains are in the minority. You Communists have taken over.
     
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    The Wermacht drove the Brits to Dunkirk...the SS were just a small part of the German war machine.

    And the reason why they didn't destroy the British is because Hitler was a maniac and Goerring an overblown idiot.

    Face the facts.

    You worship a monster.
     
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    Face the fact that you are a communist.

    Adolf Hitler the great video
    http://www.youtube.com/verify_controversy?next_url=/watch?v=xnuYBjcoDMQ
     
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    Don't look at me - Britain chose to team up with the Soviets and excuse all of their warcrimes carte blanche. I for one don't see why Nazi Germany should be entirely villified while Stalin's atrocities are virtually ignored and forgotten.
     
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    That is w WWII came down to and because we stood behind the Communists they overran Europe. Now even the US is under UN jurisdiction. Ask any Vet.
     
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    The SS were not part of the Heer, they weren't even part of the Wehrmacht.
     

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