Nope, I am neither an admirer of the genocidal maniac Hitler or the genocidal meglomaniac Stalin. But since in your mind, the world consists of either Nazi's or Communists.... Well suck on it Nazi- your side lost. Hitler committed suicide and was then burned and with it your dreams.
Your side only won because you were financed by jews and had the advantage of no homeland attack. Hitler was too much of a gentleman and did not use the atomic bomb and allowed the Brits to escape Dinkirk. Then you **** bastards murdered 1.7 million Germans after the War and gave the best part of Europe over to your communist allies. Yes You and your commie allies won all right but just look at the results. We are not even a sovergn country any more and have lead the way in genocide in the Middle East and Africa at the behest of the jews. And Our allie Israel threatens to Nuke us still. 9/11, The Liberty, the Levon Affair, spying on us, totally controlling our media finances, politicians and turned us into a Zionist communist Nation. Congratulations. You killed the best of humanity and now even America is just a bunch of foreigners, queers and our military is being poisoned with drugs and vacccines from the jew drug companies. What do you think is causing all the suicides and violent outbursts as a result of all those drugs being given to them. But you will regret it and if you only knew how many vets and current Military feel like me and one day we will overtake your UN military and return to being the Strongest Sovergn Nation on Earth. See you hanging.
"**** bastards"????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posts the glorify nazis are generally idiotic racist rants that are rooted in lies and neo-nazi propaganda and are accepted as articles of faith by the idiotic racists themselves. I made a bundle on them holocaust deniers and nazi/facist glorifiers by selling them a book I wrote on the great jewish "earth is a globe conspiracy", with detailed maps of the flat earth and photographic evidence that the pictures from space were doctored. Sold like hotcakes at the Stormfront kaffeklatch. Visceral hatred of others is generally a sign of extremely low self esteem, where the hater MUST hate in order to feel even moderately good about themselves.
66 questions and Answers about The Holohoax -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews? None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual "survivors." This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have actually witnessed any "gassing." There are no contemporaneous documents or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of disposing of millions of corpses, no "human soap," no lamp shades made of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics. 2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the Nazis? Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated "six million" figure is an irresponsible exaggeration. 3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that "there were no extermination camps on German soil"? Yes. The famous "Nazi hunter" wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24, 1993. He also claimed that "gassings" ofJews took place only in Poland. 4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an extermination camp? After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a "gas chamber." The mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a "gassing" camp. 5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used to kill people there? No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified after the war, and a room was reconstructed to look like a large "gas chamber." After America�s leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred Leuchter,examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities, he stated that it was an "absurdity" to claim that they were, or could have been, used for executions. 6. If Auschwitz wasn�t a "death camp," what was its true purpose? It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as a workforce. 7. Who set up the first concentration camps? During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called "concentration camps" in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and children. Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as terrible as German concentration camps of World War II. 8. How did German concentration camps differ from American "relocation" camps in which Japanese-Americans were interned during WWII? The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons on the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the basis of race alone. 9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps? It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all suspected security risks � not just Jews � were in danger of internment. 10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as early as 1933? In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an international boycott of German goods. 11. Did the Jews of the world "declare war on Germany"? Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in the London Daily Express (March 24,1933), for example, announced "Judea Declares War on Germany." 12. Was this before or after the "death camp" stories began? This was years before the "death camp" stories, which began in 1941-1942. 13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass civilian bombing? Britain� on May 11, 1940. 14. How many "gas chambers" to kill people were there at Auschwitz? None. 15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German control during the war? Fewer than six million. 16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what happened to them? After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all causes during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United States, and other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war. 17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet Union? More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in 1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control. 18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting them outside of German reach? Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR). 19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant, Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was? He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators later admitted. 20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to torture German prisoners in order to exact "confessions" for use at the trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere? Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent "evidence" for the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar "war crimes" trials. 21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today? It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders. It is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to justify US aid to Israel. 22. How does it benefit the State of Israel? It justifies the billions of dollars in "reparations" Germany has paid to Israel and many individual "survivors." It is used by the Zionist/Israeli lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in the Middle East, and to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling billions of dollars per year. 23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen? The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of Jews as a holy and eternally persecuted "Chosen People." 24. How did it benefit the Communists? It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before, during and after the Second World War. 25. How does it benefit Britain? In much the same way it benefited the Soviet Union. 26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of Jews? No. 27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps? Hydrocyanic gas from "Zyklon B," a commercial pesticide that was widely used throughout Europe. 28. For what purpose was "Zyklon B" manufactured? It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill typhus-bearing lice and other pests. 29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination? No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people, far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting fumigation agent. 30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with Zyklon B? Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are employed. 31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the "gas chambers" to remove bodies ten minutes after the victims had died. How do you explain this? It can�t be explained because had they done so they would have suffered the same fate as the "gassing" victims. 32. Hoess said in his "confession" that his men would smoke cigarettes as they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing. Isn�t Zyklon B explosive? Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false. 33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate Jews? The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from a hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to "steam chambers," to "electrocution" machinery. Millions are alleged to have been killed in these ways. 34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from those who were scheduled to be killed? It couldn�t have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass gassings. The extermination storiesoriginated as wartime atrocity propaganda. 35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why did they go along with the Germans without resisting? They didn�t fight back because they did not believe there was any intention to kill them. 36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps? Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000. 37. How did they die? Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and rail transportation had been bombed out by the Allies. 38. What is typhus? This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews might have survived the camps. 39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during the Second World War? 5,700,000. 40. Some Jewish "death camp" survivors say they saw bodies being dumped into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this? A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a substantial fuel shortage during the war. 41. Can bodies be burned in pits? No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate bodies in about ten minutes. How long does it take to incinerate one body, according to professional crematory operators? About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further processing afterwards. 43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens? To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had died. 44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the camps in German-controlled territory, what is the maximum number of corpses it would have been possible to incinerate during the entire period such crematories were in operation? About 430,600. 45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time? No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per day). Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in heavy operation. 46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse? After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full. 47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what happened to the ashes? That remains to be "explained." Six million bodies would have produced many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash depositories. 48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken during the period when the "gas chambers" and crematoria were supposedly in full operation) show evidence of extermination? No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp, nor do they show evidence of the "open pits" in which bodies were allegedly burned. 49. What was the main provision of the German "Nuremberg Laws" of 1935? They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews, similar to laws existing in Israel today. 50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws? Years before Hitler�s Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted laws prohibiting marriage between personsof different races. 51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to the "Holocaust" question? An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. 52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews were allegedly being exterminated? If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there was none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn�t. 53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish extermination program? None. 54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate? As early as 1933, Hitler�s government signed an agreement with the Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate fromGermany to Palestine, taking large amounts of capital with them. 55. How did Anne Frank die? After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. She was not gassed. 56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine? No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes that the famous diary is a literary hoax. 57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the liberated German camps showing piles of emaciated corpses? Are these faked? Photographs can be faked, but it�s far easier merely to add a misleading caption to a photo or commentary to apiece of footage. Piles of emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were "gassed" or deliberately starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of raging epidemics or of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps toward the end of the war. 58. Who originated the term "genocide"? Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944. 59. Are films such as "Schindler�s List" or "The Winds of War" documentaries? No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history. Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical representations. 60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the standard "Holocaust" story? Dozens. More are in production. 61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered $50,000 to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz? No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who claimed that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business to suffer, and represented "injurious denial of established fact." 62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story are merely anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi? This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all persuasions and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There is no correlation between "Holocaust" refutation and anti-Semitism or neo-Nazism. Increasing numbers of Jewish scholars openly admit the lack of evidence for key Holocaust claims. 63. What has happened to "revisionist" historians who have challenged the Holocaust story? They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions, loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence. 64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of speech and academic freedom? The IHR had been bombed three times, and was completely destroyed on July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been overwhelmingly hostile. 65. Why is there so little publicity for the revisionist view? Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story. 66. Where can I get more information about the "other side" of the Holocaust story, as well as facts concerning other aspects of World War II historical revisionism? The Institute for Historical Review, P.O. Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA 92659, carries a wide variety of books, cassette and video tapes on significant historical subjects.
What a load of rubbish here of those oh so brave Anglo-Saxons who think they had the better soldiers and like to spit on the graves of German soldiers. There were several waves of Waffen-SS soldiers: 1. Until 1939: These soldiers were well equipped and their drill was ok, but not perfectly fit to war. These troops were focused a little too much to look good in parades and focused too much on sport achievements and fitness (which are of course important, but not the only important aspect of a front soldier, the focus was not correct). They consisted of a few fanatic nazis, but also of people who just wanted to become civil servants in their later career. 2. From 1939-1944: These were the most fanatic, well equipped and best trained soldiers of WWII in Europe. "To give death and to take death" was their motto, they did both, for most of them was clear they would fall in combat and they were prepared to die for their idea of a national socialist Germany. If you ignore the Japanese soldiers they were by far the best soldiers of WWII, nevertheless they were often absolutely reckless and merciless. 3. From winter 1944-1945: They conscripted everything they could, even children, their skills as soldiers were no longer over average. Every experienced Wehrmacht Division was far beyond these soldiers. It is really funny to see these Anglosaxon feelings of superiority, it was Red Army soldiers who fought for their lives who were able to fight down the German soldiers only by outnumbering them. In their desperate fight to take them out they lost 13 million soldiers. Sorry Yanks, your bombardements and your support of the Soviet Union may have been decisive, but an army who ran away because of 200 000 soldiers in the Ardennes, when they were unable to use their aircraft and when their soldiers ran out of choclate cake and whose main task it was to terrorize German civlians from the air should not claim their soldiers to be the bravest.
You can include the Japanese soldiers and the Germans are still the best. The Japanese were more fanatic but had not the good euquipment the Germans had and the Amercans had very low casualties compared with the Japanese. The prerequisites to become an SS-Soldier were reduced during the war. SS-Soldiers had to be at least 1,80 meters big, had to look aryan and a very "clear" family tree from the NS view. In 1944 this prerequisites began to crumble. However, children were no SS-Members, did not fight and worked as messenger boy in the last days of Berlin e.g. There were enough voluntary boys, we should not forget the NS-upbringing. Wrong clue. the brave soldiers did not terrorize German civlians from the air, they liberated German civlians from the air. Therefore they are the most brave soldiers. Joking aside. The bomber crews were brave indeed, because they knew they had a very low life expectancy. The German defense was much more effective than the people think today.
Us Angles and Saxons spit on the graves of German soldiers because they were murdering cowardly scum who committed warcrime after warcrime. They may have been psycopaths, and violent cretins, but that is even more reason to rejoice in their demise. To admire a member of the Waffen SS for any reason is a sign of acquiescence to the enormity of their crime. That is the real agenda behind those who eulogize German soldiers on here. It is a denial of the crimes committed by Nazi Germany, thinly disguised. I don't care if they were brave or not, as long as they are dead. If their death was slow and painful, so much the better.
It's bizzar to rub the reader your fantasies of slow and painful deaths under their noses and talk about psycopaths in the same post. You rather fit in the image of a psycopath than many of these guys who were conscripted. However, they were outnumbered and wiped out by the Red Army, an army which committed countless atrocities, but fought without any doubt in a brave manner and consisted for most parts of brave soldiers. Your attitude and your lust for torture and pain would perfectly fit in the requirements for Mara Salvatrucha, but never ever makes you the perfect British soldier. Of course I could throw links with US or UK warcrimes after you, but I don't want even to compare soldiers who were most often brutalized in their wars (oftentimes cannot bear what they did later on) with psychopaths like you who write down such lines in the deepest peace. Sensation seeking opulence kids with dreams of people tortured to death are the last people to judge any war criminal.
That is a high quality rebuttal from one who quotes a prominent American Nazi in his signature. I suppose "the devil can quote scripture for his purpose". Most Nazis are as thick as pig excrement. As to Nazis, there are Nazis who put on jackboots to beat up and terrorize immigrants (if they can get three Nazis onto one woman for example). And then there are the clever articulate ones behind the scenes who write the weasel words and direct the thugs from a position of absolute physical safety. But my point still stands. Those who concern themselves to eulogize members of the Waffen SS and their "bravery" are precisely those sort of people who wallow in their own brutality "in the deepest peace". Any member of the Waffen SS who could now not bear what they did, would be unlikely to join in this debate. He would not eulogize the bravery of his comrades in the slightest and even if he could recall instances of personal bravery the point would be moot when stacked up against the monstrous crimes that his organization committed. Any truly reformed Nazi would prioritize expressions of strong remorse and shame, and would denounce any "admirers" as fools, thugs and hooligans for indulging in such a hateful game. He would rightly denounce those who wish to ignore or marginalize the collosal crimes of Nazism to play schoolboy games as to who was bravest (meaning who was the savagest inhuman scumbag when you really get down to it). Your denunciation of me has one significant deficiency. We do not live in times of deepest peace. We live in times where there are "fine brave Nazis wanting another go". I'm sure that you as someone who quotes a Nazi in his signature, know this. We live in times full of racial hatred. We live in times where people are still killed for what they are. Those who indulge in this abusive game as to "who was bravest" are either fully paid up members of real Nazi parties today, or are their sympathizers, enablers and apologists. The war never ends. Nazis still need to be crushed. Today. Now. Over and over again. You should get that message. Every time I see American Nazis and their chums faced down by anti-fascist protestors I notice one thing. How quickly they run away. It's the same on forums. They start off pretending to be articulate and reasonable. Interested in military history. It's not long before the Jewbaiting starts. From physical safety. "Brave". My arse! Nazis should know that once they get up from their armchairs they will "have their faces acquainted with the pavement". If you think that is a fantasy, you should try getting out more!
@topic; Waffen-SS You throw in your posts everything together into a sausage machine. Sometimes you use the concept "nazi", sometimes you talk about "German soldiers", sometimes you talk about "Waffen-SS" soldiers. As I told here before there are different types of the Waffen-SS soldiers during the war. It does not need much fantasy to imagine that most of the people who joint the Waffen-SS voluntarily in the years 1939-1944 were fanatic and devoted national socialist, nevertheless even there you have exceptions. These troops fought under German command, but were not exclusively German. You'll find French, Dutch, Norwegian, Albanian, Belgian, Indian, British and countless other Soviet people like Armenians or Turk people fighting in their own divisions. The German army was the Wehrmacht. In the Wehrmacht served 17 million Germans, the Waffen-SS was an army, consisting of divisions from many different nations, much smaller than the Wehrmacht. In these troops of the Waffen-SS war crimes may have been much more common than under the command of other armies, but by far not all of them were war criminals, especially not those who were joining long before or were conscripted in the last days. And I was not only talking about the Waffen-SS in reply to your childish attitude of soldiers who cannot bear what they did (sometimes it means what they themselves did, sometimes what their comrades did). It is for most soldiers extremely difficult to live with the war experience, often they have to deal with war crimes, but even if it is not about war crimes, what you do is slaughtering people in the war. The people who have fun with that are extremely rare. I would have confronted you with countless crimes of the oh so brave Western armies, if I thought of you as anyone who is really outraged by the crimes committed by the Waffen-SS, but your tasteless lines give me more the impression of someone who simply is what he is and uses just one label to justify his own immoderateness and his lust for blood. Some use for that the label of the football club, Crips and Bloods go for the wrong tatoos, you prefer a political label you can stick to anyone. And yes, you live in the deepest peace, you are an opulence kid who does not know what the word "war" even means. @Nazis, my person, everything else off topic I don't know why you think of me as an American nazi, but I am German. I was just living in the U.S. for a long period of time and heard many interviews of Geroge Lincoln Rockwell and became a "sympathizer". I don't believe that every culture fits to every other culture. I have not seen many organized American nazis outside the TV, but I am sure your stories of your triumphs over them are just fantasies and I wonder why you wonder that they run, when they are beaten. I am sure you would run as well, reality not the same as on your playstation. We had here in Germany people like you who were obsessed of killing and torturing nazis or what they labelled as them, I can assure you I can handle the danger of clowns like those of the Red Army Fraction. If you want to kill, go join a war, but do not tell me of your straw puppets.
I am very aware of non-German traitors and quislings who fought for the Waffen SS, many of whom went to their deaths unrepentant. I am also aware that those who want to eulogize the fighting qualities of the Waffen SS do so from motives of sympathy with Nazism. Other ways people show their sympathy with Nazism are alos widespread - such as quoting the founder of the American Nazi Party in your signature, that could be a clue. Nazis are scum, pure and simple. Their little fantasies about big German soldiers with big tanks may make them feel better about their small penises. That's what all this "weren't the Waffen SS brave" stuff is all about. I suppose I should feel sorry for today's neo-Nazis who can't get themselves a girlfriend and prefer to fantasize about swastikas, blood and iron, skulls on helmets and all that other fodder for socially and sexually inadequate people, but somehow my bleeding heart liberal empathy evades me when it comes to such pus sucking scum. You have no idea about me. I have not been a soldier but have close members of my family who have known war. I know this from military people - they don't sit around talking about war and find no glory in it. They would puke at the sight of a load of college kids on a forum eulogizing the fighting qualities of a bunch of war criminals like the SS. Soldiers are to be judged by what they did, the context in which they did it and the attitude towards what they did that they hold today. There are many who think they commottied atrocities that they regret and many that think killing Jews or civilians was justified, in all armies. The Waffen SS though was the home of ideological nazis, as you pointed out. Ideological Nazis are people who want to kill me, now, today and in the future. Forgive me then if my attitude towards them is that in the event that they show the slightest sign of gaining the slightest power that they should be crushed by all means necessary, including physical means. You are a sympathizer with the leader of the American Nazi party. You are German. I am not sure what else your point is. I am not sure I am very interested. The key point about Nazis is not just their views. It is that they organize themselves into political parties and paramilitary organizations to take power. They do this by deceitfully pretending to be rational and moderate, knowing that as with the NSDAP, as soon as the middle classes have voted for them, that they will sweep people's political rights away. There is no need to go and join a war with Nazis as we are permanently in one. Your posts and all the schoolboy masturbation that goes on here on this thread in celebration of fine Aryan blonde men with big tanks between their legs, demonstrates this perfectly.
I often wonder how many of those in here that go around saying such absurdities are as open about it in their real life. So many in here try to paint pictures of themselves as perfect little aryans. I wonder if any of them would have the cajones to put such a bumpersticker on their car, ot go to their co-workers and say even a fraction of the things to them that they do in here. I picture Nazi's in today's world as either sad individuals living off of foodstamps and raging at the world for the injustice they have to live with, or people who eat their own livers every day, being forced to work with their obvious inferiors at McDonalds.
in november vote national socialism. Waffen SS GDH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6m_pvDV4JI&feature=player_embedded#!
Then they were real doldiers today we have First Gay Wedding on US Military Base. about 1 in 3 Americaqn soldiers suffer from PTSD after a few months in a warzone less dangerous than the City of Chicago. So many suffer from substance abuse. Where have we let these zionist communists lead our once Great Nation?
I will give them this, at the time, they were the best trained and tactically sound military due to the indoctronation and training they had since childhood. Many german soldiers started their physical and military tactics training at the age of 12 or even younger thru the Hitler Youth movement. I think I read somewhere that 8 out of 10 german teenagers were at one point in the Hitler Youth. They would have a 10+ year head start in training over their enemies. The best soldiers of all time... I guess it depends on what your definition of a good soldier is.
You realize that the Waffen SS was full of gays and men having sex with each other. It was encouraged as a cultish act of brotherhood. Well the USA is now a nation where homosexuals in denial can express their hangups by trashing any forum stupid enough to indulge them. Those people, gay and straight, who are quite at ease with their sexuality can now laugh at repressed closeted in-denial gays who pepper the internet with posts about how macho national socialism is. Occasionally I expect that they will be joined by other inadequate heterosexual men who can't find a girlfriend who will post hatespeech that makes them feel better about their sexual inadequacy and their inability to form relationships. Instead of mummy, rocking them to sleep, they will be able to dream of Uncle Adolf, the sad failed loser whose lack of talent was only eclipsed by his syphilitic repulsiveness to women; they can then console themselves that this loser somehow managed to take advantage of a long tradition of race hatred in Europe to become the boss of a sad and hateful (as it was then) little nation that decent people had to smash to smithereens to stop the malignancy of their hate spreading across the whole world.. As soon as they become more than the nasty little armchair warriors that they currently are and start to try and kill us and take away our freedoms, we shall acquaint their faces with the pavement.
<<< MODERATOR EDIT: REPLY TO DELETED QUOTE >>> Nazis run away when they are confronted by anti-fascists. Every time. Nazis are cowards. They attack women, particularly alone. I have seen them photograph women who protest against them, saying "we know where you live". They post people's addresses on the web, so that they can attack them in groups one by by one or attack their houses and families and run away. Nazis are the most cowardly scum of them all. You want to see some German cowards - see the Nazi scum in this video. You want to see brave Germans - try Hans and Sophie Scholl, Christoph Probst and the White Rose Society . So brave were the Nazis that they cut the head off brave 21 year old Sophie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZJXLZdnhCI&feature=related There isn't a Waffen SS soldier who is fit to lick the soles of her shoes let alone a sad inadequate repressed American loser fantasizing about Hitler.
Take that back. They are not on foodstamps. They work very hard at earning their money providing a much-in-demand product, and risk their lives daily to do so. Do you have any idea how many meth labs go BOOM each year?
Really funny, you tell your fairytales here of triumphs over nazis, of coward American nazis and try to upset me with your stories about American nazis, but when I have to disappoint you with the simple fact that I am no American nazi, you feel overloaded with information about me. You don't need to be interested. I am absolutely not sure, what your point is, you write pages about your entertaining fantasies about nazis. Nazis are always in fear of antifascists, they alway run away, of course. The reality rather looks like that, hundreds of left wing extremism scared to death by 5 neonazis. Nevetheless the whole discussion is boring, I even understand the commies that run away, they are only freetime gangsters and don't want to put their pathetic lives in danger. I know enough of you to come to my comments by taking into consideration your comments. I never wrote here that the Waffen-SS was the home of ideological nazis, I stated that fanatic nazis may have been overrepresented there, when you read my statements above carefully you will see that, they stand for themselves. You obviously have to simplify them to make them fit to your world view. And it is quite primitive to accuse the volunteers to be traitors. Many of them simply fought for their lives and these of their loved ones and their people. You wrote above, there are no Stalin apologists here, but as I see it, either you ignore the fact that the SU was a threat to the existence of the Baltic states, Finland and other European countries or you expected them to give up their meaningless existence for those of the Jews. You also seem to like to cite "no paseran" from the Spanish Civil War, the motto of those church burners, murderers and nun rapers, who fought there. Maybe you are no Stalin apologist, because from your point of view there is no reason to defend his actions at all? In one point we agree, there is no glory in war. War takes place all the time, it is the most wise to avoid it wherever you can. If neo-Nazis threaten your life either concrete or diffuse, everyone will understand your motivation to fight them down. If you take the term nazi by its original meaning, I cannot see one country in Europe or one state in the US, in which they could be a real significant threat, I am quite sure, you want to extend the term in that way, that includes everyone who does not agree with your image of the world, which could fit into a cigarette box and use your permanent state of war as an excuse to either justify physical violence or at least vulgar hate speech (to decide what you are capable of, I do not know you indeed good enough, but the pattern you give here in discussions is an easy reading).
Even though one of the obvious objects of the OP was to throw acid in the faces of those who are easily offended, many of the ideas of arms, tactics and training from the German Army (Heer) and especially the Waffen SS have been adopted by modern armies around the world---and at least those contributions can be recognized. If the Soviets or Japanese had any elite units worth discussing, that would be different. But all in all these two armies behaved liked savages. What can be taken from the German units from WW2 is their basic small unit tactics centered around around a machine gun giving cover, while other team members advanced. From Waffen SS units, at least the better ones like the 1st and 12th SS, their ideas on leadership and training are still valid. Divison and Corps commanders were right at the front lines, unlike allied commanders, yet many of them survived the war. There was less formality. Officers and enlisted acted more as one team in the better units. Training was done with live fire as much as possible. "Square bashing" or drill and ceremony was kept at a minimum, as well as long marches. Some practices I find less useful, like having tank crewmembers help at the tank factories for a short time. Much of their doctrine has been incorperated into our current military, but it still is believed by the world that the military arm of the SS spent almost all its time hunting down Jews and other civilian enemies, instead of fighting a desperate war on the front lines.
Actually, both of them did. Japan had 4 "Special Attack" units in their Naval Air Wing. Unit Shikishima, Unit Yamato, Unit Asahi, and Unit Yamazakura. And each of these performed their duties with a blind zeal that is far beyond that of most other soldiers and sailors. As far as "Soviet Elite" units, they had lots of them. Pretty much every single "Guards" unit was trained to the abilities if not beyond those of the Waffen SS. These were highly disciplined and trained units, which performed very well against their German counterparts. You also had the Soviet Army Airborne units, which performed a great many operations. However, instead of operating like the US (82nd Airborne! Blood on the Risers!"), they most often operated in small numbers, equipping and training the partaisan units all over Eastern Europe. Very much as the OSI.
It is very simple really. Every Nazi, through their ideology, wants to create a society where I will be exterminated. That is, every Nazi, now. My response to Nazi's filth and deception - such as this sickening eulogy to Nazi scum - is made in that context. Nazis sympathizers can be identified by certain signs, such as quoting George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American Nazi Party, in their signatures. It is of course possible that non-Nazis will quote Nazis approvingly in their signatures, just as I as a non-monetarist quote Freidman. It is however unlikely. Those who come on here spreading Nazi propaganda, or trying to eulogize Nazis or make excuses for Baltic scum who murdered Jewish men women and children by shooting them in the graves they had forced them to dig, are already engaging in a violent act. To suggest that Baltic people were justified in any way in participating in the murder of Jews, because of the actions of Stalin, is just more same-old Nazi filth. Any action to promote or mitigate Nazi ideology or practice is an action that threatens my life. It is an action that seeks to create a society where I will be taken away, just as liberals and political progressives were taken away and murdered by Nazis and fascists in the twentieth century, over and over, from the USSR (Red Nazis, pumped up on Russian nationalism), through Nazi Germany, Fascist Spain, Nazi client states like Hungary and Slovakia, right through to the Death squads of central America and the butchery of Pinochet. Nazis intend to deceive their way into power and then to remove all our liberties. This is their modus operandi and every time there is the split in the Nazi movement between the Hitlers and the Rhoms, between the "moderates" (who prevail) and the thugs. The more moderate and reasonable Nazis seem, the more of a threat they are. It is necessary to continue to remind people of Nazi crimes and deception and to face down Nazis wherever they become a threat. As soon as any Nazi power becomes a possibility they need to be physically crushed. And they will be. Any violent act against any Nazis in any circumstance can be justified as an act of self defence. The only limitation that should be put on this is to protect our democratic freedoms and to afford Nazi scum democratic rights until that point where that deception threatens to destroy us. As to the rest of the drivel, there is no argument here to say that the USSR was justified in murdering and raping German civilians, or in the massacres it carried out in the Baltic States in the twentieth century. But any argument that this justifies the sick barbarism of Latvian Nationalists is another apology for Nazism that carefully starts to re-build a political movement that threatens my life and liberty. Similarly, to support a butcher like Franco using the excesses committed against a small number of Catholic clergy (who were largely fascist sympathizers and bitter opponents of democracy totally different to modern Catholics) is another act in this deceptive project to crush ordinary people. In Spain, Stalin's henchmen destroyed a real popular movement that supported a democratic government, so you won't find any sympathy for communist scum from me. But "no pasaran" was also the motto of my grandfather and his comrades who proudly stood at Cable Street in 1936 to see off Mosely's blackshirts and the police that supported them. That is my devout Catholic, ex-priest novice, nun loving, Irish speaking, Irish nationalist grandaddy, who knew that fascists needed to be challenged physically and violently, to humiliate them and destroy their machismo and bravado, to reduce them to the snivelling inarticulate cowards that they really are, so we can have the freedom to write what we want, say what we want, pray to whichever God we want, and live our lives unfettered by fear. No pasaran.
