Want to make a lie seem true? Say it again and again and again and again

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  1. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How to get a falsehood accepted as true

    Several people have noted that falsehoods promulgated Agent Orange have become commonly accepted as truth by a party that must not be named. It turns out that when falsehoods are repeated .... theses falsehoods start being accepted as truth

    the following article does not deal with Agent Orange, nor the Unnamed political party that in some cases supports his incredulations ...never the less it provides some perspective upon how we can all come to believe that which is not entirely true

    https://www.wired.com/2017/02/dont-believe-lies-just-people-repeat/
     
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    That's probably one of the reasons that trumpism is considered a cult. The orange pervert has repeated things so many time his dog pound actually believes him and that is scary.
     
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    They always say that if you're going to lie, do it big and do it often. Trump, Johnson, Bolsonaro, every populist loudmouth does the same.
     
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    By that then Americans belong to the cult created by msm who promotes propaganda from the cia used to influence beliefs and opinionsopinions.
    So that would make trumpians a subset within the greater set. This means not only are trumpians brainwshed by trump but you are brainwashed by a corrupt media and no different than the trumpians .

    So you choose your poison
     
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  5. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if Trump is going to continue his "lock her up" lie at every campaign stop now that his own Departmet of Justice has wrapped up their investigation having found nothing worth charging?
     
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    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is a major tactic of propaganda that many of us fall for.

    Critical thinking has been destroyed by partisans and tribalism

    Responsible serious people would discard blind partisanship like dog **** on their shoes.
     
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    You mean like "You'll be able to keep your doctor" or "The ACA will save you money"? Those lies?
     
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    Hillary should have been charged, for sure. You or would have gone to prison while she was the Democratic nominee for POTUS.
     
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    lock her up
    lock her up
    lock her up

    (Is it true yet?)
     
  10. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    It wasn't the ACA that dumped people's doctors. It was insurance companies.

    And, the savings statement came before the cost cuting measures of the ACA had to be removed in order to gain passage.

    Those measurs could be added at any time - probably the most important one being the public option.

    I don't know of any seriously considered policy change that would be more catastrophic than killing our health care system. Yet Republicans make that their GOAL!!
     
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    Obama pulled the rug out from a LOT of people with his plan after he had told them that they'd be able to keep their doctor. In other words, Obama was full of ****. Of course, it was routine procedure for Obama to lie on matters of great significance.
     
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    Of course not. Dedicated leftists like you protect elite Democrats from being prosecuted for her crimes. Not only do you protect them from their crimes, you laugh at those that want them to be held accountable for their crimes. My question is, why? Why do you love the Democratic Party so much that you'll tolerate any amount of crime and corruption?
     
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    And what does any of this have to do with science?

    Yea, we got it. You do not like him. But talk about an obsession, are so many people really completely unable to talk about anything without bringing up the President?
     
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    Obama should have been clearer that his statement applied to the ACA - NOT what insurance companies might do to their customers.

    He was absolutelyl RIGHT that the ACA does not cause anyone to have to switch doctors.

    Insurance companies set up provider networks. If your doctor ended up not being part of the new provider networks they set up, then your insurance company would not accept your doctor.

    Suggesting that Obama should have informed you that your insurance company could screw you over makes NO SENSE AT ALL. Insurance companies can screw you over any time they want - much less so after the ACA than before.
     
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    Your partisanship is on serious display.

    It's the TRUMP DoJ that determined there was nothing worth charging her with.

    And, it's the Republican party that is absolutely and TOTALLY interested in the crimes committed by TRUMP.

    I'm OK with Clinton as she respects our constitution, while Trump sees it as garbage.
     

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