WaPo called out for report on Biden's 'migrant facility for children' after hitting Trump's 'kids in

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  1. Dutch

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    Why, he keeps them all in the same cage? :hiding:

    Bad Biden, bad!
     
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    No, families are released until the court date, just like under Obama
     
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    We've gone from sensible Trump policies back to insanity.

    "Makes Absolutely No Sense" - Biden Cancels Trump's 'Operation Talon' Program Targeting Immigrant Sex Offenders
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    “If the United States will not remove even convicted sex offenders, whom will it remove?
     
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    And the Dems called them concentration camps remember

    "The journalist Jonathan Katz argued in May that given the intent behind these facilities, and the conditions that migrants are being held in, they are best described as a concentration-camp system in the United States. That assessment was echoed by Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who was promptly accused of trivializing the Holocaust. “Allegations that somehow the United States is operating in a way that is in any way a parallel to the Holocaust is just completely ludicrous,” Representative Liz Cheney wrote. Although Ocasio-Cortez did not mention the Holocaust, the association between the Shoah and concentration camps is strong, and attacking an opponent for hyperbole is easier than defending the torture of children—not that Cheney is at all opposed to torture."
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/border-facilities/593239/
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Omg it’s almost like politicians can be dramatic. She still wants them gone, and Biden has said he agrees.
     
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    So? 60% of the global population would move to the U.S. if we made it easy for people to enter illegally and stay.

    Guatamala, Honduras and El Savado alone have about a total population of 33 million people and two of those countries have poverty rates over 60%. What percent of those 33 million will make the trek if Biden hangs a sign on the border, "Walk-Ins Welcome"?

    You can have a bleeding heart all you want, but we do not have infrastructure in housing, education and health to bring in tens of millions of the world's poor and illiterate.
     
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    The Biden administration thinks that storage containers are an "improvement".
     
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    There is a reason we use certain words....

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    I honestly dunno what’s better.

    For America, that is.
     
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    Despite the author's criticism of Biden's hypocrisy, Bayoumi neglects the elephant in the room surrounding the U.S. practice of detaining unaccompanied children. Our law requires that we either 1) find the parents, or 2) place children with "a sponsor".

    During both the Obama and Trump administrations, we were not able to find enough American sponsors to accept these kids into their homes or essentially "day care centers", and lacking suitable inspection abilities, some of the places which did accept kids in exchange for government paychecks were worse than the detention camps.

    The author shouts "inhumane", but neglects to offer any solution to the question, "Where exactly do you propose these children go instead?"

    The kids are getting shelter, nutrition, healthcare, and education at the camps. That is not guaranteed after they are scattered across the country with "sponsors".

    What we need to do is not let illegals into the country in the first place, and make it easier to legal to deport them back to their home country. If they are from Mexico, we can send them back immediately. If they are from countries separated by more than one border, we cannot easily deport them.

    From the article you linked:

    "It doesn’t stop there. Despite the language coming from the administration, these children are facing a terrible and possibly illegal situation. In 1997, a class-action lawsuit settlement established standards for the detention and release of unaccompanied minors taken into custody by the authorities. According to the Flores Settlement Agreement, the federal government must transfer these unaccompanied children to a non-secure and licensed facility within days of being in custody. In an emergency, the government can keep the children for up to 20 days while seeking to reunite them with family members or place them with a sponsor."

    "All of these extremely disturbing facts surrounding this detention should elicit massive amounts of outrage in all of us, but the Biden administration seeks to deflect the criticism by assuring us their version of childhood detention is thoughtful and humane, even while opening a facility where kids are delivered in unmarked vans to an internment camp that is geographically remote and difficult to access."
     
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    Yup. I'm not confident this problem has a solution, so I don't blame those who fail to find one. But that also rules out finger pointing by either side, and that was my point.
     
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    "Revenge Politics" will have repercussions in the 2022 midterm elections. Both the "soft on immigration" rhetoric of the Obama and Biden administrations made me feel less safe in Texas. I expect that sentiment is shared by many in all the border states. Even Obama did not order for criminals who had already been set up for deportation to be released back onto America's streets. Biden is "Obama on steroids". He is reversing all of Trump's actions without any thought as to whether the policies were popular with Americans or not.

    Trump's immigration policies were popular with many people in the border states. That's why he picked up Hispanic votes in those states in 2020.

    These criminals are not likely to be released and go to mostly white or black neighborhoods. They will go into mostly Hispanic communities, rape women, sell drugs, get the children into gangs and increase violence and murder in those neighborhoods.

    The media rhetoric painted Trump as a "racist" for saying, "When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re [bringing their] rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” Trump was not talking about Mexicans. He was talking to legal Mexican-American citizens. Mexican-Americans at the border, in particular, knew exactly what he meant.
     
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    Yep. Obama. Trump. Biden. All following U.S. immigration law. The "surrounding" media spin is the only difference. Obama and Biden are kind and caring humanitarians, while Trump was an evil beast. lol Not difference in real life results. We have to detain kids until we can place them "somewhere".

    I did appreciate the link and your point.
     
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    it's the same policy but like with Cindy Sheehan when Bush was POTUS, it's a non-issue when a Democrat is POTUS

    If it gets no media coverage then it must not be an issue; right?
     
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    Biden is a puppet much like Obama; DO you really think he makes decisions?
     
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    No, of course not. Biden is an empty meat suit now with dementia, unlike his younger self.

    Obama had a more "personal" hand in making decisions and was very well aware of how his every action and word would impact his lasting legacy. Biden just reads stuff of teleprompters, and repeats the words spoken into his ear through a wireless device.

    The Progressives are running the show. Those would be the same progressive policies that moderate Democrats strongly opposed at the beginning of the 2020 election cycle. The DNC canned Bernie and Warren and installed Puppet Joe for the "easy strings" they could pull.
     
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    And you think that means they don’t own any document?? It means they don’t have immigration papers lol
     
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    Taking kids from parents vs not taking kids from their parents.
    It’s not the same
     
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    Cages. Same as Obama and Trump. Unless kids in cages is only bad when it is kids who have been separated from parents by the government. I guess the unaccompanied children are not a big deal because the government didn't lead to them being separated from their parents. Totally WARPED standards.
     
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    Shouldn't border crossing be decriminalised? That way they don't need to be released into the interior of the coutry for the purpose of attending court. They can just be sent back ASAP to wherever they came from.
     
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    Except Trump stopped doing it 5 minutes after he started it, after receiving blow back. Seems pretty weak to me.
     
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    Democrats do see illegal aliens as their future voting base. They have admitted this.
     
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    The post I responded to is trying to blame the Obama Administration
    That sounds like someone on a QANON high would believe that.
     
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    Yes, and . . . ?
     
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    With no factual backup.
     

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