war on prescription pain killers

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  1. Bridget

    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    Again today I read an article about the evils of prescription drugs. I am not on any prescription drugs, just for the record. However, doesn't it seem like prescription drugs is an issue between a patient and their physician?? Why is my health any of anybody else's business and when did it become the whole world's business?? To me, pain killers have their place in health. Often someone would prefer to take pain killers, rather than go under the knife, which it their choice, and often it is better for them too. Soon if not already, no one will be able to get anything for pain because the doctors will be afraid to prescribe. And then the black market on prescription drugs will be expanded too. Perhaps if everyone stayed out of everyone else's health.....
     
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    Do you live under a rock? Prescription drugs are causing massive epidemics of heroin overdose. Many, prescribed to children. Marijuana, the safest pain killer, is illegal for some absurd reason(pharma and prison companies lobby against it.) Nobody can make your statement without being 100% ignorant about what is happening.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Well, you should support the recent legislation that Matt Gaetz, my Congressman, just introduced. It moves Marijuana from a Schedule I drug to a Schedule III drug, which means it can be prescribed legally in the federal sense by physicians. It's a good first start.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the war on painkillers should be the war on big pharma and their network of drug pushers called mds. Its doctors who prescribe these drugs KNOWING how addictive they are, not to mention being able to provide one helluva a buzz. Yes extremely effective for pain treatment, but MDs are handing them out like aspirin.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, I believe recreational drug use should be legalized, controlled and taxed to the hilt. Thereby undercutting the massive criminal empires that prohibition has created and bringing crime everywhere down dramatically.
     
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    The other side to that is that treating pain helps the body heal. For example, my son had his wisdom teeth taken out a few years ago. A few hours out of the surgery he had bleeding which would not stop. One of the solutions that helped stop the bleeding was to administer his pain killers (yes, narcotics, which he had a prescription for about 10 pills). Because of our silly fear of narcotics, we hadn't administered enough of the pain killer. It stopped the bleeding. Why? Pain causes your blood pressure to rise. High blood pressure can increase bleeding. Once we got the pain under control, the bleeding stopped.
     
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    There were ~ 50,000 deaths from opioid overdoses last year which is greater than the number of deaths from car accidents and gun homicides combined. Many addicts started on prescription opioids which were thought based on research papers to be non addictive.
     
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    Say what you will but a friend of mine had a work accident where he was hit on the head with front loader bucket and it jammed him up to where his pain was unbearable for years, over ten I do believe, he was taking prescript opioids and had a heck of a time dealing with that, he went cold turkey and survived (with help from the Lord I might add) and spent 18 months afterwards getting insurance and doctors to put a electronic device in his spine to make life livable. Now he does ok. Thing is even though he got off the opioids his doctor was still ready to give him more knowing the difficulties he had.

    So, people take this stuff when they don’t need it, being aware that it will kill them, so yea something should be done to keep the prescription gravy train from running over unsuspecting people in pain. the morphine button on the hospital bed is one thing, and daily use is another.
     
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    Opiods need to be taken off the market and that will force drug companies to develope non-opioid drugs for pain. I have found that 800mg. Ibprophen worked better for my back pain than prescription hydrocodone and is not addictive. Here are alternative treatments for extreme continual pain instead of opioids. With electronic prescriptions it is easy to stay abreast of the number of prescriptions patients are receiving. It is the crooked doctors and pill mill pharmacies that should be prosecuted not the patients.

    The system is messed up. There is no question that opioids, considered heroin addiction is killing patients. Oxycotin, hydrocodone breaks down in the body and becomes heroin like.

    How many patients are told this? Granted if you take the drug as prescribed and only for a short period of time, you likely won't become addicted. But for those with continual pain, they eventually become immune to the prescribed broaden and start taking more and more and hence become physically and mentally addicted.

    Take these drugs off the market as the addiction is far worse than the pain.
     
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    The number of people who die each day as a result of using an opioid is much higher than zero to the tune of thousands of Americans a year. "From 1999 to 2015, more than 183,000 people have died in the U.S. from overdoses related to prescription opioids".
    https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/data/overdose.html

    OD's are on the increase.
    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6450a3.htm

    There is a much safer alternative that being marijuana. Opioid OD death toll well over a hundred thousand and climbing, pot OD death toll zero.

    I was on Norco for 6 years.
     
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    DEA warns of toxic potency of opioids risk to law enforcement officers...
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    Feds Look to Protect L.E. From Deadly Opioids
    June 8, 2017 | WASHINGTON -- The Drug Enforcement Administration warned agencies across the U.S. this week that some chemical agents used to process illicit drugs are so toxic that even officers are put at risk.
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    Packaged fentanyl seized in Calgary, Alberta, Canada is seen.[/center]
     
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    I'm a pain patient due to chronic nerve damage pain, now, I do take over the counter pain killers and Lyrica which is controlled in Florida but a non-narcotic drug and with stress reduction it tends to do the job okay. But I have bad spells and need narcotics now for me that is around 10-15 5mg doses of Oxycodone (I cut the 10mg pills in half) is enough to make it bearable and less commonly that that I need a full 10mg pill added to my non-narcotics. I have no problem with this. And what are people with cancer or conditions dying or post surgical patients have if you remove these narcotics and others they deserve not to suffer as do others. And they need solid monitoring and a doctor who prefers not to go right to narcotics especially in larger doses.
     
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    Right, and the good book backs us up..:)-
    "Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing.” (Bible: Ezekiel 47:12)
     

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