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Taxcutter · Jan 12, 2013

Have the Warmers bothered to take this up with China, India, Russia, India, and Brazil?

The US already trails China in CO2 emissions. If the EPA doesn't outlaw fracking the US will be No. 4 (behind China, India, and Russia) in five years and No. 5 behind Brazil in ten.

Seems like the Warmers should take the issue up with the big emitters.

Bowerbird · Jan 13, 2013

Taxcutter said: ↑

Have the Warmers bothered to take this up with China, India, Russia, India, and Brazil?

The US already trails China in CO2 emissions. If the EPA doesn't outlaw fracking the US will be No. 4 (behind China, India, and Russia) in five years and No. 5 behind Brazil in ten.

Seems like the Warmers should take the issue up with the big emitters.
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You do realise this is like standing in front of a 40 foot pile of rubbish you have accumulated yourself and when a neighbour throws some trash on top you complain that you will not clean it up until they clean up their bit

politicalcenter · Jan 13, 2013

Bowerbird said: ↑

You do realise this is like standing in front of a 40 foot pile of rubbish you have accumulated yourself and when a neighbour throws some trash on top you complain that you will not clean it up until they clean up their bit
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But a country that sells millions and millions of tons of coal to the world and then complains about global warming is like a drug dealer selling dope and then complaining because the neighborhood goes to pot.

Sorry Bower....but blaiming it all on the U.S. ain't gonna cut it.

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Bowerbird said: ↑

You do realise this is like standing in front of a 40 foot pile of rubbish you have accumulated yourself and when a neighbour throws some trash on top you complain that you will not clean it up until they clean up their bit
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But a country that sells millions and millions of tons of coal to the world and then complains about global warming is like a drug dealer selling dope and then complaining because the neighborhood goes to pot.

Sorry Bower....but blaiming it all on the U.S. ain't gonna cut it.

KSigMason · Jan 13, 2013

Climate change nutters want us to believe that wildfires, dust storms, and any form of weather is a recent phenomena.

waltky · Jul 10, 2017

Granny says, "Dat's right - flames, fire an' vapors o' smoke - like inna Bible...

Heat wave continues to bake California, largest active wildfires force nearly 8,000 people to evacuate
Monday 10th July, 2017. - As the heat wave continues to bake California and the rest of the West, over 8,000 people have been forced to evacuate due to the raging wildfires.

By Sunday evening, the state Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said that the wildfires were only 15 percent contained after burning more than 37 square miles, destroying homes and threatening thousands of structures across the state. According to authorities, firefighters battled two major blazes on opposite ends of Santa Barbara County along the Central Coast. On Sunday, firefighters were focused on protecting mountain peaks that hold crucial communication and electrical infrastructure, including a high-voltage line that carries power to Santa Barbara and neighboring cities. The state Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said that the Alamo fire that broke out near Highway 166 in northern Santa Barbara County, was the largest active fire in California.

Further, the department added that at least 200 people were forced to evacuate a remote area east of Santa Maria, and about 1,000 firefighters from Los Angeles and across the state rushed to help control the flames. Officials with Los Padres National Forest said that about 35 miles to the south in Santa Barbara County, the Whittier fire near Lake Cachuma, burning just north of Goleta forced over 3,500 people to flee the area. The fire is said to have scorched over 12 square miles and burned 20 structures on both sides of Highway 154. When the fire started on Saturday afternoon, it trapped about 80 campers at the Circle V Ranch Camp, however, Capt. Dave Zaniboni of the Santa Barbara County Fire Department reassured that the campers were rescued by the U.S. Forest Service firefighters later that day. Firefighters working near Santa Ynez, aided by slightly lower temperatures on Sunday, saw a high of 91, compared to 106 on Saturday, and favorable winds blowing in from the Pacific that halted the fire’s spread downhill toward Goleta.

Areas near the Santa Ynez Mountains, that were badly burned by two wildfires in the last decade, saw the blaze moving east and west. Jim Harris, deputy fire chief for Los Padres National Forest said that this would act as a good buffer, adding, that the firefighting effort in Santa Barbara County is in need of additional ”hotshot” fire crews with the kind of rugged engines that can navigate the steep dirt terrain where the fire is burning on the south-facing mountain slopes. According to Cal Fire’s unit in San Luis Obispo County, a third blaze broke out in the Central Coast on Sunday, about 30 miles east of Morro Bay. Official said that the fire quickly grew to 340 acres and threatened numerous structures. By Sunday evening, the fire was just 10 percent contained.

Over the weekend, thousands of evacuees slept in their cars and shelters, waiting for instruction on whether they were allowed to return home. In other parts of California, over 4,000 people were under a mandatory evacuation order as the Wall fire tore through nearly eight square miles and destroyed 10 structures in a remote part of Butte County. Gov. Jerry Brown subsequently declared a state of emergency and devoted additional resources to the firefighting effort there. Cal fire said that by Sunday evening 17 percent of the fire was contained and that four people were injured by the Wall fire. The agency added that the fire was “actively” burning, pushing toward the northwest and southwest and leaving another 7,400 people under evacuation warnings.

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'This is going to be a long battle:' No end in sight to wildfires ravaging B.C. interior
Monday 10th July, 2017 - More than 220 fires are burning in B.C.’s interior as of Sunday afternoon, including more than a dozen considered an immediate threat to communities

Until Friday, it had been a quiet season for the British Columbia Wildfire Service, with staff busier helping with flood relief than fighting fires. But after two weeks of intense heat and dry conditions in the province’s interior, all that changed Friday when a system of dry lightning moved through central B.C. Randy Worsley, chief of the Wildwood Fire Department north of Williams Lake, said he was at the fire hall Friday when he saw a flash of lightning, literally out of the blue. “I saw lightning come down, and there were no clouds,” he said.

Before the day was out, 140 fires had flared up across the province, the government had declared a state of emergency, and Worsley and his crew of volunteer firefighters were battling flames that surged within 10 metres of one home. “We went right in and knocked it back,” Worsley said Sunday by phone during a break. “Our objective is to preserve as many houses as possible, which we’ve done very well so far … We haven’t lost a structure yet.” With more than 220 fires burning in B.C.’s southern and central interior as of Sunday afternoon, including more than a dozen considered an immediate threat to communities, not everyone has been as fortunate.

A wildfire burns on a mountain near Ashcroft, B.C., in the early morning hours of Saturday July 8, 2017. More than 3,000 residents have been evacuated from their homes in central British Columbia.

John Ranta, Mayor of Cache Creek, said fire had destroyed at least five houses, 30 trailer homes and two hangars at a regional airport. Provincial officials estimate that 7,000 people have been forced from their homes by fires that show no sign of abating. “Friday was really the tipping point when we had a fairly significant weather system move through,” said Kevin Skrepnek, the province’s chief fire information officer. “It brought wind to most parts of the province. That was a key, critical challenge we had. But it also brought a significant amount of dry lightning particularly to central B.C., and that’s certainly what touched off the vast majority of new fires we are getting.” Skrepnek said not all of the fires started naturally.

Conditions are dry enough that a cigarette butt, an untended campfire or a spark from an off-road vehicle could spell disaster. The province has begun closing provincial parks in affected areas and issued a campfire ban for southern B.C. “We’re definitely getting human-caused fires as well, and that’s particularly galling right now, given how intense it is,” Skrepnek said. In Kamloops, outgoing Premier Christy Clark met with evacuees and emergency officials Sunday and announced $100 million in relief funding. She warned that the situation could worsen. “We are in many ways just at the beginning of the worst part of the fire season,” she said. “We watch the weather, we watch the wind and we pray for rain. But our prayers aren’t always answered in these things, so we need to be there to support people in the meantime, because there are hundreds and hundreds of people who are scared to death right now.”

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B.C. 'praying for rain' as wildfire crisis worsens: Premier Christy Clark
Monday 10th July, 2017 - British Columbia is making $100 million available to communities and residents affected by wildfires to help them rebuild

British Columbia is making $100 million available to communities and residents affected by wildfires to help them rebuild. Outgoing Premier Christy Clark announced the fund today during a visit to Kamloops, where she met with emergency officials and families impacted by scores of out-of-control fires. Clark says $600 will be made immediately available by electronic transfer through the Red Cross to people who have registered after being forced from their homes. She says the transition team for premier-designate John Horgan’s incoming government has been briefed on the establishment of the fund.

Horgan said the outgoing government has been very co-operative and that he would honour the $100 million Clark had committed to, adding that the province would likely provide even more support as the cost of the disaster grows. “Whatever is needed to make sure that people are whole after this, we’re going to make sure that happens,” he said, after meeting with officials in Kamloops. Horgan said he spoke with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau Sunday afternoon, who assured him the federal government stood ready to help. “To have the prime minister say the federal government is there for us when we need it is very reassuring,” he said.

Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said Ottawa has agreed to federal assistance. The Canadian Armed Forces are helping residents affected by evacuations and airlift emergency workers and equipment. Three Canadian Armed Forces Griffon helicopters were expected to arrive in Kelowna on Sunday and some larger fixed-wing aircraft are to arrive over the next few days, said Chris Duffy, executive director of Emergency Management BC. Duffy said the aircraft would be on standby and ready to help wherever they were needed, but that they would not be assisting with fire suppression at this time. The hardest-hit regions are the central and southern Interior. There are also a number of major blazes burning in northern B.C. but they weren’t posing as immediate a threat as the fires further south, said Kevin Skrepnek, chief information officer for the BC Wildfire Service.

A provincewide state of emergency was declared Friday after about 140 new fires ignited and crews grappled with intense winds. The government said it would allow it to more easily co-ordinate a response to the crisis. Clark said people are worried about their homes, pets and lifelong possessions. “We are just, in many ways, at the beginning of the worst part of the fire season and we watch the weather, we watch the wind, and we pray for rain,” she told reporters in Kamloops. “But our prayers aren’t always answered in these things and so we need to be there to support people in the meantime because there are hundreds and hundreds of people who are scared to death right now.” On Saturday, the winds eased slightly, but 98 new fires sprang up and existing fires grew in size, Skrepnek said.

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drluggit · Jul 10, 2017

Quick, depopulate CA. Frankly, the danger to the citizens is too great to continue to allow them to expose themselves to the risk. Make them resettle somewhere that can absorb them rapidly. Illinois should work just fine....

RPA1 · Jul 10, 2017

SoCal always burns up during the summer. Wildfires are a fact of life even more so today when the US Forest service has a 'let it burn' policy on BLM land. Unfortunately, these unattended wildfires tend to impact areas where human beings live at which point CalFire has to take over. CA has an ancient history of drought. We are lucky that a 100-year drought has not hit...yet.

iamanonman · Jul 10, 2017

Wildfires in the southwest are like tornadoes in the midwest and hurricanes along the GOM and eastern coasts. It's a fact of life.

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