Warmongers in Washington badly want a war with Iran

There is nothing that unites people more than an attack from the outside, and especially if the attack is unjustified. The Iran Iraq war comes to mind.

 

Hate to agree with you but watching MSM and their faux experts beating the drum for war was nauseating. Unbelievable! An people still think there is some kind of liberal media bias in the US.

 

Yup, American military contractors and weapon manufacturers are as strong a lobby as the Israel or Pharma.

War and movies are the only thing the US produces anymore.

US has the economic power to be such a force for good in the world - instead all it knows is force!

 

Just like they wanted to destroy Libya, Egypt, Syria, Ukraine and Yemen

 

It's not over yet. You still have your foot on Iran's throat and there can be no resolving of tensions until you lift sanctions.

No one is going to negotiate with a gun to their head and you still have an angry badger cornered with no where to run.

 

Destroying Israel would be even better. It's a source of all kinds of disputes.

 

It will still affect the oil price in a disastrous way. And hoping that bombs will be dropped on Iran, probably means the total destruction of Israel. It only takes 3 cities to take out to dump that place into towns no bigger than 250K.

 

Israel is a modern democracy. In 70 years, they’ve turned a desert into a wildly successful nation.

Iran is a dangerous, 7th century theocracy. The largest sponsor of terrorism in the world.

 

It's an apartheid state. Their success is only due to receiving billions of foreign aid, while violently oppressing and draining other peoples natural resources.

Nope. The US is that largest sponsor of terrorism. They sponsor Israel so it can ethnically cleanse it's heart out. It supports terrorists in Syria. It supports the genocide against the people in Yemen. It supported Saddam Hussein rage a WMD war against Iran. It's supported the coup against the elected government of Iran. Name a fascist dictatorship in Latin America, and it has been supported by the US. The US hates democracies. They can't controle them.

 

You need to understand that because of TDS liberals will do a complete 180 of whatever Trump does. Lack of principles?

 

Beyond hope.

 

Even the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were not "disastrous" for oil prices and we are in a much better position now.

 

Sort of like Trump undoing everything Obama did 180?

The only TDS I see is in people who think Trump is a competent president or a good businessman or isn't lying every time he opens his mouth.

There are people who think that, you know!

 

Times have changed. And the US is still not able to dictate the price of oil.

 

Yes times have changed and we are now the world's largest oil producer. No we don't dictate the price of oil but now at least OPEC doesn't either

 

You just don't understand the geopolitical ramifications of a military conflict with Iran. It's not going to be like our invasion of Iraq, captured a few cities then done in a few days. 3 trillion dollars, the creation of ISIS and 9 years later, we finally left. Iran is a highly sophisticated country with some of the best scientists in the world. They aren't a tumble-down crumbling country like Iraq was.

Iran is a big city, a rich country with a standing military of more than half million men. Not only that but Russia, China, Turkey, Syria and many tendrils and webs in the Middle East are aligned with Iran. This absolutely must be handled diplomatically, there's no other way. We just cannot do what Bolton and Pompeo want and just ride roughshod over a country like Iran to get a new regime in place that are more sympathetic to the US. That's just not going to happen.

 

I don’t want war.

 

Well, maybe not a full scale war ..
But a strong military act must come in response to the downing of the drone.

 

As we've seen, complete bunkum.

 

Maybe but you are not the only people in the world.

 

Our increased oil production goes into the world pot. We have weakened if not destroyed the OPEC stranglehold on all the world.

 

Ok, well I was hearing that say Iran shuts the straits of Hormuz and 30% of the oil cannot get through prices will sky rocket. I would think similar if you get involved in a ME war. You are saying the US is now self sufficient. I take it this is due to fracking. You are saying you set your own oil prices...OK but that is just fine for the US but no one else. In fact it would possibly put the US in quite a powerful position. Do you think the US would benefit by oil trade deals with Europe if this war takes place? Do you think it might change who people do business with. Of course we should all be giving up on oil yesterday.

 

I never claimed we set our own price or world price. Our increased production and the fact we are now the world's largest oil producer has added to world supply and taken away OPEC power to control oil prices. The entire world is now far less dependent on this volatile part of the world and that's thanks to us. By the way it's largely shale oil that did this not entirely fracking as some people say.

 

Dude. The US is barely producing more oil than Saudi Arabia. And OPEC is more than 1 country. They still dictate it. The US fleet is not in the strait of hormuz for a vacation.

 

Try to keep up "dude"

Saudi's Admit, Oil Prices No Longer In OPEC's Control

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrap...ices-no-longer-in-opecs-control/#393e1fb73b09




https://money.cnn.com/2017/05/18/investing/opec-oil-prices-us-shale-saudi-arabia/index.html