Was 9/11 Really A Surpise Attack?

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  1. Monster Zero

    Monster Zero Well-Known Member

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    Pearl Harbor not a surprise attack (which was allowed to happen, FDR had prior knowledge due to communication intercepts), the Japanese broke radio silence

    "Admiral Kimmel, in a 1958 interview, articulated the reason he and General Short were kept in the dark about the impending attack -- Roosevelt needed the attack a pretext to enter the war. "

    http://911review.com/precedent/century/pearlharbor.html

    "In November, 1940, FDR ordered the Red Cross Disaster Relief director to secretly prepare for massive casualties at Pearl Harbor because he was going to let it be attacked."

    http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=408



    http://redroom.com/member/steven-ro...ow-japanese-attack-on-pearl-harbor-on-purpose
     
  2. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Two things. First off, if we knew of the impending attack, why didn't the people responsible for the interception and decoding ever speak up? According to Stinnett, he talked to the radio operators and cryptographers in Hawaii. Why didn't they speak out either before the attacks or after the attacks? If what Stinnett says is true, why weren't these people brought up on charges? We already know "following orders" isn't an excuse.

    Second, IF Pearl Harbor was known about prior to December 7, how does that prove anything about 9/11? Why is it people think one event in history proves another is the same? Have you no imagination? :lol:
     
  3. RtWngaFraud

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    According to Norm Minetta, the transportation secretary's Congressional testimony, it was no surprise. As he stated, Mr. Cheney knew full well about the inbound plane that was heading towards the Pentagon.
     
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    FDR already had a pretext to enter the war. The USS Reuben James was sunk by a german u-boat 6 weeks before the attack on Pearl Harbor. The evidence that FDR knew of the japanese attacks is far from conclusive. You have to remember that just because JPN naval tadio tradfic was intercepted before the attack does not mean it was decoded before the attack as there was a tremendous backlog of SIGINT at the time. BTW, a 9/11 blog is fnot the best source of info on WWII
     
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    Do you have a source to back up this allegation?
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Norm Minetta's testimony to Congress? Yeah..I do...just google Minetta testimony and Flight 93. There's countless videos of him saying exactly that. You can't NOT find it.
     
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    Flight 93 did not impact the Pentagon.

    As for Minetta's testimony: read this.

     
  8. Patriot911

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    If you were actually interested in seeking the truth instead of regurgitating debunked truther lies, you would know that Minetta didn't know what flight they were talking about. He thought it was flight 77, but that was speculation. Reality is they were told by the FAA that Flight 11 was heading towards Washington from the North. That is why the fighters from Andrews were told to fly North.

    See, if you were actually seeking the truth, you would have actually read the transcript of Minetta's testimony instead of watching retarded videos of sound bites of Minetta's testimony with a whole lot of bull(*)(*)(*)(*) added. Here is the tesimony. It wasn't hard to find. Someone seeking the truth would have no problem whatsoever finding it.
     
  9. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    thats one of the smoking guns he cant get around that 9/11 was an inside job is his testimony he gave.I guess he thinks Cheneys order Minetta gave was not to go eat and food for another hour or so?:mrgreen: He of course wont watch the video and google it since he only sees what he WANTS to see.lol.
     
  10. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    You are another truther who obviously has not read the testimony and instead rely on bull(*)(*)(*)(*) truthtard videos to get your "information". A shame some people just cannot grasp the simple concept of the videos lie. :lol:
     
  11. DDave

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    Why don't you READ the actual testimony instead of watching some edited video that tells you what you want to hear.
     
  12. l4zarus

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    Because then he'd have to face the absurdity of his position and the hours of wasted life he's spent on this conspiracy stuff.
     
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    Because he's a complete muppet. One shouldn't expect too much.
     
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    Funny...the video I find over and over all over the web, has Minetta saying "plane is 50 miles out, 40 miles out, 30 miles out, and do the orders still stand?"

    That suggests Cheney knew perfectly well a plane was heading towards Washington. Google the video folks. Don't rely on reprocessed or skewed information when the actual video is available to see so easily. The video tells the story, despite what the "official" BS story defenders tell you what you didn't actually see.
     
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    Perhaps you've seen video or Mr. Minetta conveying what he was actually referring to? Hint: It WASN'T the way you would like to portray it. Google folks. EASY.
     
  16. diligent

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    It was a total surprise. The American miliitary, the FBI and all the other Federal agencies were either bickering or asleep, or possibly a combination of both.Or they just could not believe that such a daring action would or could be undertaken.

    They did not understand the evil, suicidal mindset, steeped in the murky mire of the Dark Ages, of their enemy.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Oh pleeeease. Asleep? AFTER two towers were destroyed an hour and a half later? Puhhhhleeeeeease.
     
  18. I_Gaze_At_The_Blue

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    So what, according to you, could they do then ... and hour and a half to do WHAT exactly ???
     
  19. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Why would I need to google it and why would I have to watch some (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up retarded truther video with cherry picked quotes out of context? All I need to do is read the testimony.

    When one reads the entire context, one can clearly see Mineta was not fully briefed and was not sure exactly what was going on. He had to make a number of assumptions like exactly what plane they were talking about.

    I don't need a truther video. I don't need the opinions of some whiny little truther. I can read it directly for myself. Funny thing is truthers seem incapable of actually exposing themselves to the truth. Apparently they are only able to expose themselves to retarded truther videos. :lol: Pretty pathetic!
     
  20. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Another blatant bull(*)(*)(*)(*) lie from rtwngafraud.

    An hour and a half after the towers were destroyed? The North tower collapsed at 10:28, almost an hour AFTER Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. The South tower collapsed at 9:58, 21 minutes AFTER flight 77 hit the Pentagon.

    So what twisted universe do you live in where events that happen AFTER another event actually occur an hour and a half BEFORE that same event?

    Now run away from addressing your latest and greatest lie.
     
  21. diligent

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    What on earth could anyone do in such a short space of time. Bomb Pakistan perhaps.No doubt people like you, with your infinite hatred of the USA and Democracy would have loved that. Instead the USA gave them warning.Maybe that was Ameroca's mistake.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Have a fighter or two, patrolling the skies over Washington, at the very least. DUH.
     
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    They were hit a ten minutes before nine...correct? The Pentagon's "magic plane" supposedly hit at close to 10:30. About an hour and a half warning that something could be amiss before Washington was "attacked".
     
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    MORE bull(*)(*)(*)(*) lies from fraud. The Pentagon was hit at 9:37, not "close to 10:30". The towers collapsed AFTER the Pentagon was hit when you claimed the Pentagon was hit an hour and a half after the towers collapsed.
     
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    Oye vay....America was under attack (so goes the story), and the Pentagon couldn't so much as have a single jet in its skies. Riiiiiight. :fart:
     

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