Was Derek Chauvin verdict fair?

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Was Chauvin verdict fair?

  1. Yes, it was fair.

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  2. No, it should have been longer.

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  3. No, it should have been less.

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    would not matter what race the victim was to most, what the cop did was wrong
     
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    It obviously did no good as religious beliefs never do.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    These are the aftermath arguments straight from the conspiracy theory deniers who just hang on to Fix News tripe despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Like climate change deniers, trickle down advocates and the rest of the GOP and Trump advocates, science, the law and the constitution have little meaning when it comes to applying human rights.
     
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    Taking drugs is Something any denier would have to be doing while the trial evidence was being presented. It’s obvious.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Now we know who we’re debating with.
     
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    Do you really think I care about your made up tripe one way or another. The trial is over. You’re posts are just non factual reiterations similar to all the Tucker promoted conspiracy theories.
     
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    Did you come to that conclusion before of after your experience with being arrested.
     
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    I have a different opinion having been in his shoes.
     
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    I have no idea what conspiracy theories you’re on about, I don’t buy any of them. What I do know is what the coroner stated and how the technique works having used it without issues for years when I was an LEO. When you commit crimes you lose your “right” to remain outside a jail.
     
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    Your comment is illogicall. The law he broke does not make it valid to kill him.
     
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    Your comment is nonsensical. People hyper-ventilating, people with asthma, people having panick attacks, people having problems breathing from ephysema or cpd o r pneumonia or covid 19 or bronchitis often can and do speak.
     
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    Your comments simply show you do not understand basic anatomy, medicine, heart disease.

    You have taken two totally unrelated causes of death and claim they are the same assuming both heart attacks were caused in the exact same manner. It is past stupid. You show you do not understand the phenomena of contributing factors to any heart attack.
     
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    You just made an out and out bigoted statement. What is even more ridiculous is that you make a sweeping statement all blacks are not persecuted. You do not discuss the Floyd issue you desribe your preconceived stereotype of all black people.

    Up until this statement I responded giving you the benefit of the doubt-now I do not. You are just an other bigot with an anti black agenda using the Floyd death as an excuse to express your hatred.
     
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    Now I am calling you out and completely distance myself from your comments and call you out. His being black has nothing to do with the issue. The fact you are making it an issue reflects your bigotry. The issue was the CHOICE of technique used and how it was used NOT skin colour. Had this been done on a white man it would have been equally as wrong and more importantly people like you would not try justify it by making such an idiotic comment.

    Your pulling the race card is bull ****.
     
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    in this current political climate white people get shot way more often than black people, but for reasons I cannot understand it’s only a big deal when it’s a black person. Doesn’t matter if that person straight up deserved it, blm and others come streaking out to make a fuss. Had this been a white guy no one would have said a word. Which is more idiotic than anything I could muster.
     
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    Well you will just have to forgive me for not making Democratic party approved remarks.
    I do my level best to act responsible and to be truthful.
    Why did you blow steam attacking me when you could have had a decent conversation?
    Anybody can blow off steam. And you showed how it is done.

    When the mood hits you, try again.

    On blacks being persecuted I use as some of my authorities Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams has talks on this I use, Here is a good discussion on this.

     
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    This is what gives blacks an undeserved bad name. The hostility leaps up to bite. Why can't you accept the premise that blacks kill far more blacks than whites do, that blacks are seen in videos where violence happens and they moan they make up the bulk of convicts.
    Not all blacks do this. My bet is the Democrats love this issue so they can leap out angry as hell to pretend they are all about black issues. If they should be about black issues, show us by comment on ways to reduce crime.

    Floyd is a hero to Democrats. They wanted a man to make a hero so they have one. Floyd is nothing more or less than a human that rejected coming out of his car when asked to until the fuss was made, Made repeated remarks he could not breathe for what seems like 20 minutes or more and when on the street found he had used his excuses to the point the cops did not take his word.

    Now there is a fine officer a convict because Floyd was one hell of a resister of being arrested. We think he was loaded with drugs and perhaps was not firing all brain cells and made a mistake.
     
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    Correction ... I do not have an anti black agenda.
    Floyd is one man who went to a black run store to swindle them. I do not find him an honest person.
    I wondered if you would spring into action by getting hostile. I do not deal in sterotypes.

    I say it many times, blacks are victims of criminal blacks. When blacks make them a hero, naturally that is bigoted and not appreciated.

    How many blacks call out blacks for doing crimes? Why are they shy?
     
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    are you saying cops can get away with doing this to white people, and not blacks.... not sure what your saying?
     
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    Man you flew out of the coop angry hat pulled on and ready to fight.
    My story was most about two rather sudden deaths. It is not a lesson in medicine. I did not say the two deaths are mirror images. I think in my dim memory of my brother the wife said he had a heart attack. But that is not what is bugging you.

    You are trying to sound as if you really understood both deaths I reported. What is your prognosis given I know both of them and you do not?
     
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    Floyd should have got away with counterfeiting then?
    I do not spend all day trying to make up excuses for Floyd. How quick to leap on the officer and how late to the party to criticize Floyd for his criminal action. Excusing him for being doped up on drugs.
     
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    It would be different had the cop gunned him down. Like cop gunned down Ashli Babbitt. Are you as upset with that black killer?
     
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    He drove his dump truck of claims to the discussion. I am used to him tossing the kitchen sink and the bathtub into all issues.
     
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    No Dagosa, you actually do not know who this magical We are debating with.
     
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    Why are you denying he was overdosed with some dangerous drugs? At least I give him an excuse for his pretense.
     
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