Was Donald Trump Racist before he was elected President?

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Becoming President of the United States can have some strange effects on people. Is there any evidence that it can turn a relatively nice, well respected guy into an avid racist? It seems to be what everyone left of center would portray. In fact, race baiting appears to be the biggest positive thing Democrats have going for them this year. This picture, however, should remind them of a few things...[​IMG]
     
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    Well he used to be a democrat.
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    He did hang out with America's favourite "Southern" Democrats.
     
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    Accusations of racism and bigotry are many. The only quote anyone has come up with is "Kung Flu".
     
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    He and his father used to earmark applications for their public housing, which his father built, so that blacks were denied rentals.
     
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    That doesn't prove racism.

    We have a prior middle class area in town here that was well kept by factory workers. A great area to raise a family. Then we lost the factories and that middle class.

    As time went by this area became inhabited by black folks poor service sector workers most on govt assistance. I inherited a house in this area once it was a black neighborhood. I sold it for less than it was worth at one time as property values had plummeted.

    Well that area now is run down and many houses trashed. Who wants to own those houses when the people trash em out with drug dealers and shootings? Not me. Yet I am not a racist.

    I live in the rural county with the rest of our small middle class. We have middle class black folks here. They keep up their yards and houses. If they have the money to live here they are welcomed.

    It isn't about race but education and class. My neighbors are both teachers one a prof.

    IMO the real division is class division. Not racial.

    My daughter and son in law are raising up their neighbors child a 13 year old black kid. Their father died suddenly last year. This father worked hard to better himself to get out of the hood and raise his boy away from the gang filled hood. His son Scott was and is my youngest grandson's best friend so when he died suddenly Scott wanted to live with my family. We let his grandmother draw his SS check or keep it in exchange for him to live with my family. His dad would have wanted that. Scott is one of our family now and he is where he wants to be.

    He is like his dad, motivated with good and positive values. And will never be living in the hood. IMO his dad taught him well. Never let others hold you back. And refuse to be a victim.

    I guess his dad sold out when he rejected the local black culture values.. And it is obvious that these black culture values will keep many blacks poor . Every successful black here rejected those values and mindset. That is a fact.

    You cannot help anyone who will not help themselves. Truth. No matter color of skin. Yet this is ignored and white folks get blamed.

    It is hard to pull yourself up and out of poverty if black given their culture. But millions have done it. Thanks to equality under our law.
     
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    Donald Trump has no ideology unless opportunism qualifies as one....
     
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    Can you define what a "racist" is?
    Is a person who rails against "whites" a racist?
    Is a person who doesn't want open borders a "racist"?
    Is a person who defends Democrat statues a "racist"?
    Do people who exploit black issues for political gain and virtue signaling "racists"?
    Are people who would never march for the suffering of other nationalities (ie Chinese
    Muslims or Tibetans) "racists" ?
     
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    https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Prove that.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1-yes
    2-no
    3-no
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    5-no
    I answered the 5 questions according to this criteria....."only people who use race as a primary objective to promote their criteria are racist. Anyone that does that is Racist.
    Having sovereignty over ones own border has nothing to do with race. Statues generally all have the same pigmentation....ever notice that? Nationalities are more about culture than race.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your little reference here loses all credibility with me. It says "On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly made explicitly racist and otherwise bigoted remarks, from calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists to proposing a ban on all Muslims" It is a mainstream media lie that President Trump called "Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists". He said "some are criminals, some are rapists. You aren't getting away with that here. It is very true what he said. Most of the young girls smuggled across the border by Coyotes have been raped as part of the cost. Undoubtedly not just some, but many are criminals. This is a very easy example of where the media lies. Try to pass something else off. This won't work!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure Donald Trump does things to get re elected. Isn't that what we elected him for? He shares our ideology. America First. No open borders, Nato pays their fair share, China stops cheating, and Nafta is cheating. No more payoff to Iran.
     
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    Well read the others.
    But let me point out there are fewer crimes committed by illegals than native born. They are very careful about that.
     
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    we heard about the Trump not renting to black people, identifying their applications with a C and circling it - is that racist? you tell me?
     
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    There is no doubt Trump is a racist and has been all his life.
     
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    He was a dem during his celeb TV days, and the only reason he was a dem was because most celebs are dems --- so he was a dem to curry favor with celebs.

    One thing he is not, a partisan because of ideology, if he is in a party, it's because he perceives it will benefit Trump.

    the ONLY time one can claim Trump had any conviction of any kind was when he ran under the Reform Party Banner, in 2000.

    But, since small parties have no party machinery to elect anyone, naturally, he switched to republicans when he decided to run.

    why? Because he knows a rich clown is not likely to get elected by Dems, but Repubs , Oh yeah, they are suckers for Trump.

    One thing he is is an empty suit On that point, Bolton got it right.
     
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    It is a sad day in America when someone who commits a class B misdemeanor is called a criminal, and the fed takes their kids away, permanently.
    Trump and repubs do this in spades.
     
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    He's done racist things, he's said racist things.

    And,

    His ban on 'all muslims from entering country' that is racist.

    and

    And the list goes on........


    see, a racist comment here and there doesn't mean one is a real racist, not like KKKers are, but, after while, he keeps doing it, so it's either:

    1. Dumbass **** he says so he's a dummy.

    2. Or, he's a racist

    3. Or, both of the above.

    Take your pick.
     
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    Citizens will commit crimes....they are punished. Immigrants require a higher standard to come here. When they come here illegally, just be the nature of that, they are criminals.
     
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    Don't call them anything,.....just remove them as the law dictates.
    Name me one Democrat POTUS, except perhaps Jimmy Carter who wasn't a "Rich Clown". Jimmy Carter was just a "clown".
     
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    Wonder if Oprah knew that?
     
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    Donald Trump's favorite charity is Donald Trump.
     
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    This is wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to begin. You're right, it IS just a Class-B Misdemeanor. The FIRST time. 2nd and subsequent offenses are a felony. But we rarely get to a 2nd conviction because we rarely even bother trying to get a first. However, the infinitesimally small number of first convictions are handled no differently than any other similar crime when it comes to how children are handled. But since we rarely get to this point, the reality is that most who claim to be parents are simply mules attempting to get the children across the border for slavery (sexual or otherwise) purposes. What should happen is that once they've done their time (if they even get time) on the Misdemeanor conviction, they should be immediately deported, along with their "kids", back to where ever they came from. But it never comes down to that, because even for the tiny few that get convicted, they pay their fine and/or do their time and are released into the US without being deported at all.

    Damn, I could write an entire book on how many falsehoods are hidden within your two sentence "rebuttal", but perhaps it's best I leave it at that for now.
     
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    No, it's not. As I already explained to you, "muslim" isn't a race, and therefore any action based on that status alone cannot be accurately labeled as racist.
     

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