Was Jesus aware of being Yahweh?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    You have already lost the most important part of yourself. Your moral sense, common sense and ability to justify your choice of a genocidal god over a good god.

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    What was the fulfilled mission, that seemed to be a failure enough that the Jews abandoned Jesus for failing the prophesy of rising again to live and rule in his day.

    Fulfilling mission. Fail.

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    That would be your opinion. But the fact that much of the world today still speak of him and follow his precepts suggests otherwise.
     
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    Mainly because Christianity was thrust down the throats of people for nearly 2 centuries. It is happening with Islam today. People need something/someone to believe in, true or not. Christianity has fought amongst itself, and Islam is doing the same. In many churches its about power over peoples minds. In Islam it's the same. T hey don't care about their people, just power. People/children go hungry and die while the top live well. The Church has grown out of infighting/physical but the Catholic Church and some modern denominations won't let people go without demonising them..
     
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    Where have you been looking?

    Few follow precepts from a garbage god who promises Armageddon and another genocide on his return.

    There are not that many stupidly and criminally insane people to make a difference.

    Whatever good was said by Jesus likely came from the Chrestian Jesus. The good one.

    Many of his moral tenets are not at all moral. Just look at his no divorce for women and his substitutional punishment policies. Both are immoral. Right?

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    The God of the Bible is the only God who died for his creation. Many people turn away from gods clear revelation to make other gods for themselves. Indigenous people in remote cultures make idols of wood and precious metal, or they ascribe divine powers to rivers, clouds, and mountains. More "sophisticated" Western people put their faith in money, prestige, or sensual experience. Instead of seeking the God who is continuing to reveal Himself to them-their rebellion against him notwithstanding-they pour their energies into all manner of false gods. Everyone knows that they have a desire to have a relationship with God, but some people suppress it. Everyone knows that there is a meaning to life, more to life than just them, theres something out there. They don't fully realize it, but it's like princess Leia saying I know, somehow I've always known. If you are wondering about what is the meaning of life and what are the answers, it's to have a relationship with God.
     
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    The God of the Bible is traced back to the Ugarit Pantheon of gods. El was the 'father' god who had sons. One of these was Yahweh, the god the Hebrews worshipped. Yahweh was given the task of guiding Israel. Yahweh was taken by Israel in the Babylonian Exile as their god, and gave Yahweh all the attributes associated with El. Before the Exile the Northern Kingdom worshipped El at Shiloh, The southern kingdom worshipped Yahweh in Jerusalem. When the Northern kingdom disappeared Any northern people left were invited to worship in Jerusalem. Some came south and were also taken into Babylon. Thus when the Early stories were written they contain some Yahwist, some Eloist, some priestly and Deuteronomist influences. Jesus that Christians worship was therefore the grandson of El.
    Your post is simply Christian dogma. There is no evidence of any supreme being except in the mind of those needing support. The bold is just your idea. Most people know that life is what it is. They find their own meaning to life. Apart from the affluent in the rich countries, most people simply seek to survive. And having a religious faith doesn't provide food for the table, clothing to wear etc.
     
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    That is a lie as there are many before Jesus that did. He was about number 6.

    I recognize that your god is dead. So should you, or denounce the satanic prick instead of kissing his ass.

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    Why do you idol worship a genocidal and infanticidal gods?

    Have you no shame?

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    What about "the fact that much of the world today" is still in darkness?
    And "the fact" that it keeps getting worse instead of better?
    So has following "his precepts" really changed anything at all?
    Maybe "much of the world today still speak of him" is part of the problem....not the solution.
     
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    It's unfortunate that much of the world today is still in darkness, perhaps more than ever. But I don't think we can blame that on his precepts, but instead upon those who reject his precepts. Because in so doing, they isolate not only themselves but those around them as well.

    Godlessness, in my opinion, is the root of today's evil. It puts man as god, and man acting as god is a recipe for disaster.
     
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    I can agree with that idea above....
    My point is that this idea....."much of the world today still speak of him and follow his precepts" is mute.
    If things continue to get worse instead of better....you can sing the praises of religion all day long ...but it wont help matters any.
     
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    Indeed.

    Why would anyone want to speak to and adore a genocidal and infanticidal moral monster type?

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    Godlessness is in those who adore a genocidal god.

    Yahweh is dark, while the immoral think him light.

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    What's up with all of those hard questions? How about some fluff?
     
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    I know all the fluff answers already and I like to try to make believers see exactly what kind of evil they adore.

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    I find it difficult to discuss the topic when the majority don't even know the basics.
     
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    I do not care so much what my interlocutors know.

    I try to show them the moral way to think as that knowledge is quite valuable.

    If sheeple cannot see it, it is because they choose not to see it.

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