Washington State lawmaker prepping for biblical war

They are would be terrorists because they are engaging in the kind of sophisticated mind control techniques that create terrorists.

 

You are confusing speaking out against an evil ideology - "freedom of speech" - with Orwellian censorship.

 

Do you agree or disagree that "People like him need to be locked up"?

 

I do not - and nor should folks who engage in other kinds of detestable free speech. "Sans the yelling fire in a crowded theater" - something that will have immediate and direct consequences.

Just as we should be able to call out radical Islamist's for what they are - we should also be able to call out radical religious right nuts for what they are.

 

LMFAO!

What kind of "sophisticated mind control techniques"?

 

Techniques similar to the ones that caused your "LMFAO" response - except from a religious perspective.

Techniques such as the creation of a Black vs White - Good vs Evil - God vs Devil paradigm. Cult doctrine/dogma is "Good" - anything that conflicts with this doctrine is "Evil". Anyone that conflicts with this dogma is "under the influence of Satan - or Russia in the secular case".

 

Ah. It sounded as though you were supporting OPs call for unlawful imprisonment. My mistake.

 

Once our side takes back the white house its time to mount a full frontal assault on people like this. Lock them all up, confiscate their guns. Whatever it takes.

 

I should have paid more attention to the OP and reflected to your comments. I understand how you would have thought that.

 

Says the people calling Trump voters Nazis.

 

Most folks do not understand that there is a whole lot of effort - by various interests - that goes into thought control.

 

Like the left constantly pitting one group against another. You know, white vs non-white, men vs women, gay vs straight, citizen vs non-citizen, rich vs poor, etc.????

 

Yup, sure has been. But it is not coming from the right.

The very far left controls almost all the information distribution.

 

Yup - that is the same tactic. It is an extremist mindset which avoids rational thought. Look at the "MeToo" nonsense where you actually had people standing up and inferring defacto that women never lie with respect to sexual assault - and on this basis we should do away with the rule of law - Equal Justice - innocent until proven guilty.

This is obviously not rational .. right ? People in general are self serving, lack integrity and will do nasty things for financial or political gain. Are women not people ?

So you tell me -what kind of Koolaid have these folks been ingesting that has made them reject logic, reason, and rational thought - and how many more examples would you like ?

This is just the tip of the iceberg however. Huge money goes into controlling your thoughts - to teach you what to think - and perhaps more importantly what not to think.

In 2013 it became legal for our intelligence agencies to create and disseminate propaganda on US citizens - not that this was not happening previously but, now it is "State Sanctioned" propaganda.

"Iran is the #1 State Sponsor of Terror"
"The Russians are coming" "We need to increase Military Spending as if there is some huge army massing at our doorstep that is threatening the Homeland".

This nation was founded on what ? - does "Give me Liberty or Give me Death" sound familiar ? or Franklin "those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security" ?

How is it that the citizens of a nation founded on these principles - are now on their knees .. "begging" to give up essential liberty for security - security from a risk of harm that is 400 times less than the risk of harm from "walking" ... you heard me correctly.

How is it that is now our "Patriotic Duty" to give up liberty ? .. and who brainwashed all these people into accepting this crazyness ?

The founders knew the age old trick of getting people to trade liberty for security - trade liberty on the basis of fear of some external or internal threat in order to get more power. That is why they put in the safeguards that they did .. safeguards that are either gone or being systematically removed.

Stalin used this trick to implement "Security for the Motherland"
Hitler did the same "Fatherland Security"
Bush - lacking the creative ability to come up with a new name "Homeland Security"

Obama then changed the name of the Patriot Act - Act which makes it our patriotic duty to give up essential liberty - to the equally Orwellian doublespeak "Freedom Act"

The "Ministry of Truth" is where they create propaganda. Our intelligence agency budget is 80 Billion and the Dark Project budget is 50 Billion = 130 Billion per year. This is double the entire federal spend of Mexico - a nation that is 11th in the world in terms of purchasing power. Much of this money goes to contractors .. and a whole lot of this budget is spent on controlling the thoughts going on in that brain of yours.

How is it that the people were convinced that we need to spend more than the entire federal spend of most nations on the planet - on "Homeland Security". Where is this massive threat ?

In 2000 - the Total Military spend - defense and other defense related spending - was 300 Billion/year. After 8 years of Bush the spend topped 900 Billion and went over 1 Trillion under Obama. Had we maintained 2000 level spending ( more than 5 times the amount that is actually required to defend the homeland) - increasing with inflation - we could have diverted 500 Billion/year x 16 years = 8 Trillion dollars to infrastructure, technology, ramping up our economy to compete in the 3rd millennium.

Instead we threw this money down the toilet fighting useless wars - in order to pad the pockets of the big money interests that run this nation. The same ones that want to control the thoughts in your head and spend billions per year trying to do this - much of which is your own money/tax dollars, but a bunch more is done via think tanks and "public relations" firms.

This is not some big "Secret" - it is huge business. Did you think it was some coincidence that the major "News" networks no longer give us the News. First rule of journalism school "thou shalt not editorialize" Is it some big surprise to you that the same big money interests that that convinced you that we needed to spend all this money chasing down "terrorists" are the same folks that own the MSM ? Of course not.

So stop Laughing your ass off - and pay attention.

 

Stalin and all of the other Soviet Russia commie pukes called anyone who fought for freedom, independence, or against communism traitors. Do you stand with the opinion of the commie talking turds?

 

Well when men such as Robert E. Lee left the US Army and joined the Conferacy an enemy force he gave aid and comfort to the enemy. We in the military swore to defend our country from a enemies foreign and demestic and that complies with the Constitution.

 

What would the evil ideology be?

 

You have evidence that they're using sophisticated mind control techniques? Perhaps you could share what these are.

 

Yes, swearing oaths against the government and fighting them with arms is illegal and treasonous.

If you do this, you should be arrested. If you advocate for imminently taking up arms against the government you should be arrested.

Vague support for someone who has done this is not illegal or treasonous. Indeed it is protected speech under the 1st amendment.

Even if you say "You know, I like old Lee. You know whst I really like? In the end he got around to committing treason. Good show Bob", that is not an imminent call to violence.

The Supreme Court uses the strict scrutiny standard to balance the state interest and the rights of the individual, a very robust standard indeed - the strongest in all of American jurisprudence. The state must show a compelling public interest that is narrowly tailored and the least restrictive means.

In practice this has resulted in the Brandenburg v Ohio imminent lawless action standard, which is the most stringest in the history of any nation.

Be proud of it.

 

Those aren't mind control techniques, just a different world view. I'm sure they do believe in certain absolutes as that is consistent with the Christian world view. Many of our founding fathers also held these positions but that doesn't make them cultists and has nothing to do with mind control.

 

A previous post discusses the use of a "black vs white" "Good vs Evil" - "God vs Devil" paradigm. Post 89 gets into some more detail on how this is used on a secular basis.

The evil religious ideology is one which tries to force religious belief on others through physical violence (Law). The use of sophisticated mind control techniques to indoctrinate and control people can also be evil.

Telling some child that if they "question" or "Do not Believe" the tenets of some human interpretation of some holy book - that the worst thing the mind can imagine will happen to them - eternal torture in the afterlife - for ever and ever and ever ... is a sophisticated mind control technique.

The fear gets lodged deep into the subconscious of the adherent. When the adherent comes across information that conflicts with this belief - a fear response is triggered. The adherent will try to avoid the "bad thought" because thinking that thought could lead to the bad place.

This indoctrination is furthered by ramping up the fear factor. This is done in different ways but always includes the creation off a "black vs white" - "Good vs Evil" - "God vs Devil" paradigm.

Cult doctrine is "Good" - anything that conflicts with cult doctrine is "Evil" People put forth ideas that conflict with said doctrine are said to be "under the influence of Satan". This classic "demonization of the other" tactic is a common "Thought Stopping Technique".

In more severe cults the fear factor is ramped up further by the use of an apocalyptic narrative. There is a war between Good and Evil and you must act now because the end is coming soon. There is a war between the principalities and Satan is around every corner trying to trick you... and so on.

 

You either did not understand my post - or you have no understanding of what mind control techniques are.

I have no clue what you are talking about with respect to the founding fathers .. what positions are you referring to ?

 

Sounds like you get your view of what occurs in most Christian settings from Hollywood, the fire and brimstone preachers scaring their congregations into submission. I've never actually seen one of those and I've been to a few churches. I'm sure you have evidence that this particular groups is scaring its participants into submission and goes way beyond the typical Christian church.

 

I was not referring to all of Christianity .. I was referring to the extremist nutters in the OP. That said - all one needs do is watch some of these TV ministers "Jack van Impe" for example to get a full dose of fire and brimstone. This level of intentional use of these techniques however is not reflective of all of Christianity.

When folks hear the term "Mind Control" they have often have visions of some kind of Orwellian nightmare or MK-ULTRA. It is not like this in general. The army for example has to use brainwashing techniques because the average human has a "don't kill switch" in their head.

In combat you can't hesitate - and you have to follow orders without thinking - so we must train the minds of our Soldiers if we want them to be effective.

Not sure if you read post 89 but the use of various techniques is both well understood and widely practiced. It is a multi multi billion dollar industry and it is not always a bad thing - although generally it is somewhat nefarious. Someone is trying to push through an agenda and they are willing to drive outside the line.

If I say "Iran is the #1 State Sponsor of Terror" - most people just nod in agreement. Do most of these people have the faintest clue whether or not this is true - of course not. So why are they nodding in agreement ?

Bernays said in his 1928 book Propaganda, that; "If we understand the mechanism and motives of a group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it." Bernays further stated that; "The human mind is like a computer no matter how efficient it may be its reliability is only as great as the information fed into it. If it’s possible to control the input into the human mind, then no matter how intelligent a person may be it is entirely possible to control what he will think. Therefore they that control the mainstream media control the collective conscious of the nation

In another place:
The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, and our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of…. It is they who pull the wires that control the public mind.

You can find lots on this fellow .. he is one of the "Godfathers" of Propaganda. He was one of the pioneers in transforming what today is known as "Public/Media Relations" into a multi billion dollar business. https://theconversation.com/the-man...rnays-and-the-birth-of-public-relations-44393

So you have the whole spectrum from useful stuff to nefarious involving perhaps stretching the truth - to outright falsehood (such as the Iran is #1 state sponsor of terror" - to full on intentional messing with someones head stuff.

 

So you are against his Freedom of Speech? Please share the words he has employed that are not legal and should cause him to be imprisoned by the government.

Big Government Leftists like you wanting to lock people away, take their freedoms and liberties, and deny Freedom of Speech are Stalin's dream.