WATCH LIVE: Public Impeachment Hearings (Vindman/Williams)

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  1. MrTLegal

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    Please use this thread to comment on the testimony as it happens. Viewing links will be posted.
     
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    As you watch Vindman realize his boss also testified the Vindman wasn’t trusted and counter to Vindman’s claim, all of his requested changes to the transcript were made.
     
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    “The federalist”
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    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federalist/

    What is the term?

    Fake gnus!!
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First part semi-true, second part untrue...

    Welcome to day 3, all.... A foggy day in DC...
     
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    The knee-jerk vilifying of witnesses, dedicated public servants, is a smear tactic that refuses to confront their testimonies under oath, and the extent to which they corroborate those of others.

    Whining that they are all bad people is futile.
     
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    SNIP
    Did Trump try to pressure a foreign government to dig up dirt on Biden and his son? And did Trump then try to hide those efforts from Congress and the American public?...
    ENDSNIP

    1. Of course... it's in the rough notes - Although I do NOT like the phrase 'dig up dirt'... that's nowhere to be found in testimony.... I prefer 'announce the intention to open or reopen debunked investigations'
    2. Not really, since he released the rough notes of the "Perfect call".... the cover up is the military aid piece, not the Biden requests...
     
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    LOL at "work with Judy"... Judy Ruliani...
     
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    What crime or act of bribery do they have firsthand knowledge? They opposed Trump policy and did not want possible corruption investigated? Oh well since when is that impeachable?
     
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    Hunter Biden and Burisma where Joe Biden as VP of the United States threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine if the prosecutor who was looking into corruption at Burisma wasn't fired.
     
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    I wonder if Trump has his twitter loaded and ready to go... I'm sure when he does, Schiff will find out about it first... he has great sourcing...
     
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    Did she just say she heard on July 3rd she heard about the aid freeze?? That's earlier than I thought anything was decided...

    EDIT - Vindman says the same... not sure how I missed this piece

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    Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who handles Ukraine issues for the National Security Council, testified that he learned of the hold on aid earlier that month, on July 3. He, too, never received a clear explanation other than an assumption that the hold was placed “to make sure that the assistance continues to align with the administration priorities.”
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/08/trump-mulvaney-frozen-ukraine-aid-067874
     
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    Williams just exonerated Trump from any wrongdoing at all. lol
     
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    Vindman sounds like an idiot and a liar. Like he has an ax to grind or is just a democrat operative working for Schiff.
     
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    He's nervous... who wouldn't be?? This is not his wheelhouse...

    You could create tangible energy with the paper he's shaking...
     
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    I wouldn't be there because I am a good American, unlike this clown.
     
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    What’s he lying about?
     
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    You have a strange definition for lackey.
     
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    That's bad form for Schiff... if you ask a question to both witnesses to answer, he should indicate by name or a nod who should go first...
     
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    Being there to honor his Father. He is there to try and bring down the POTUS.
     
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    What’s he saying that will bring down trump?
     
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    Nothing. He is falling flat on his face and looking like a partisan fool.
     
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    What’s he saying that’s partisan?
    Sounds like the trumpeters don’t even know what their issue is with him, other than that they should hate him.
     
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    You sound like Vindman. "don't even know", "other than", "sounds like".....

    lol
     
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