WATCH LIVE: Public Impeachment Hearings (Vindman/Williams)

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  1. BaghdadBob

    BaghdadBob Well-Known Member

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    I thought that was already assumed. Now we know for sure ... and that this whole charade is baseless politicized nonsense, but should we expect anything more from the left?
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    So can you. Go read the transcript.
     
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    he may be off his rocker right now, but honestly he was incredibly popular as the NY mayor and after he left, at least he was IMO, very well respected. from my perspective his reputation only came into question when he became a hardcore trump supporter.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So Vindman broke Article 98 of the UCMJ. I agee.

    Now requires a 303.
     
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  5. Egoboy

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    I disagree....(not that you like me)... If the aid was withheld because Trump wanted investigations announced first, that's both QPQ and Extortion, even if Trump didn't mention it directly on the 7/25 call... When Ukraine found out (early Aug or Politico article - whichever) and Sondland confirmed it, that's also Extortion and QPQ...

    To steal a great line from a Jack Ryan movie, "Sondland couldn't tie his own shoes without permission"

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    LOL, well that a stretch :) I'm sure that was a simple clerical mistake in the transcript ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Schiff just fabricated again.

    He is claiming that a, "demand," was made with no evidence of such.
     
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  8. Nemesis

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    It's ironic that the party espousing the obstruction of this investigation by having officials refuse to honor subpoenas is whining and sobbing about "due process" when they can't point to anything in the law to support that contention.
     
  9. Egoboy

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    100% agree with ^^^... but the general quote about Giuliani was "America's Mayor", not "New York's Finest Mayor"...
     
  10. MrTLegal

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    You have repeatedly demonstrated that you are not an expert or knowledgable about polling data, military affairs, or the law.
     
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    Lets see the memo, "GOT MEMO?"

    Link it, produce it, or its not real!
     
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    It's not a transcript. It's a memo. Vindman listened to the discussion, and heard the "presuhdint" self-deal.

    And the discussion is only part of the Giuliani, Perry and Sondland circle-jerk ordered by Bonespurs J. Incompetent.
     
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    Schiff tells A LOT of lies.
     
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    OHHHH its a "I heard TINGS" MEMO, dang they are the worst ones ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Yeah, but I don't know how much Giuliani would have been involved in the aid withhold... Giuliani was out pushing his conspiracy agenda. He's sort of the "Quid" guy, if you will...

    I imagine he would have had little interaction with the aid decision, although I don't discount that possibility. I'd look more towards the internal administration people for Trump talking about that, which means (to me) Mulvaney, Pompeo, Bolton, and Perry...

    It's probably moot, as none of those 5 is likely to testify until the Senate trial..
     
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    Sondland has testified to exactly that
     
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    full-of-schiff lies a lot. A LOT!
     
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    And you know, a LiAR, they never tells a single lie ;)
     
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    He spoke to someone and doesn’t know if that person was the WB or not
     
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    They tell a lot of them. Hence, Schiff. :)
     
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    Rep. Schiff is doing a great job. Vindman is a man of honor and gravity. Bonespurs is a dullard who commits crimes and self-deals.
     
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    Vindman testified that a demand was made in that phone call.
     
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    You mean the WB didn't saunter over the Vindman and say "Hey, fella--I'm the WB!"?
     
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    Schiff should have started his line of questioning with "Once upon a time"..... lol
     
  25. Nemesis

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    He certainly did.

    "BBBBbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbut Schiff is, like, lying and stuff!!!"
     

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