WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops...plaint-over-video-game-AsvFt-AHpkeQlcgNj5qiTA

    I draw your attention - The boyfriend and girlfriend are white.
    But there are no uprisings, no demonstrations. Nobody destroys monuments. Negroes don't kiss white feet .... nothing for cops, they just did their job .... Politicians are silent ....
    White lives do not matter?
     
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    Very sad. It happens with whites at two to three times the rate as blacks. And often, there is no criminal behavior precipitating it at all, as in this case.

    Life doesn't matter to black lives matter. The term is just a slogan, a doorway to a world of chaos.
     
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    Of course white lives matter. This incident should be truly investigated and the officers, if found to be in the wrong, should face charges and lose their jobs.
     
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    Nothing is going to change when all any of you care about is the skin colour of the person shot and pass off without comment the fact the USA is (and has long been) such a mess that people feel they can't answer the door without a gun in their hand and police officers feel their lives are at risk so often.
     
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    Lol.

    Yup, I'm sure the cops showed up at the residence for a music complaint knocked on the door and just started shooting.

    Lmao.
     
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    What's so funny that you have to write "Lol" and "Lmao"?

    Didn't you watch the videos?

    Your comment that: "... the cops showed up at the residence for a music complaint knocked on the door and just started shooting." is about correct.

    The victim in this case is entirely compliant and in the process of putting his handgun down when he was repeatedly shot in the back.
     
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    Did you watch the video? They show it from two angles and in slow motion as well. It's not a laughing matter.
     
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    Pointing a gun at a cop is a very risky thing to do. Not recommended ever. My guess is that the cops behaved correctly but it is just a guess. I wasn't there.
     
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    It didn't appear that he pointed the gun at anybody.
    He opened the door with the gun in his right hand.
    He saw it was the police and immediately knelt down to put the gun on the floor.
    He had his left arm partially up and his hand open.
    He was shot in the back by a second cop covering the other side of the door.
     
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    Obviously YOU never bothered to watch the videos for yourself.

    He did NOT point his gun at the cops and was in FULL COMPLIANCE with what they were telling him to do by getting down and putting down his gun.

    The cop who shot him in the back MUST be charged because there was NO THREAT to either officer and therefore NOTHING to justify what this killer cop did.
     
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    Obviously. I have metered internet so I can't watch internet videos.
     
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    That's bad if true. Another police homicide.
     
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    It is true. It is shown from each officer's body cam. I am sensitive to that kind of thing so I cannot rewatch it.

    While I understand that LEOs never know what kind of situation they will be facing, this was the definition of "trigger happy". Brutal.
     
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    Something similar happened in ok. Didnt get much traction.
     
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    Too bad both for the cop and the victim. I doubt this would have happened 20 years ago. I think the trigger happiness results from a few years of cops being murdered relatively often.
     
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    This did happen 20 years ago and even before that. We just didn't have cops with body cams. Reports basically swept the problem under the rug with their "investigations" (read: going through the motions and absolving bad cops even when someone is killed) and loved ones of those killed in cold blood almost never got anyone to pay attention.

    I hope this man's death is not in vain. There are no easy answers, but it's clear these type of cops should not be wearing badges.
     
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    Cops have been murdered since the beginning of law enforcement. But it has been more common and more random in recent years. Lately cops have been killed for sitting in a squad car and eating lunch. I don't think this event would have happened 20 years ago. Sorry.
     
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    No apologies necessary. You are entitled to your opinion. My father is a retired Chicago cop. I am a former LEO and I have several family members who were on the force. They deal with the worst of the worst and have to walk a fine line between serving and protecting to protecting themselves and each other. That's not an easy task.

    My comment remains that it is not a new wave. It was simply easier to cover up these kinds of unwarranted killings. It was always the cop's (and they would band together to cover a lie) word over the civilian's (or their family in case the person was killed) word. It's kind of like being mistreated by someone in the mental health field. Nobody will believe the person seeing a psychiatrist. Until recently, cops (and doctors) could kill with absolute immunity.
     
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    Please just watch the video a few times if you have to.

    The victim in this case never pointed his handgun at anyone.

    He immediately begins to put the gun down with his right hand while raising his left hand just as many people do when complying with LEO instructions.

    The killer in this case is at least guilty of gross incompetence but will probably long regret the night he shot an innocent man three times in the back.
     
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    Absolute nonsense.

    Who answers the door, walking out like he did, with a gun hidden behind his back?

    They even announce its the police. He has a peep hole on the door.

    Honestly, I'm Flippin tired of stories being rewritten to fit a narrative.

    Nobody in their right mind answers the door like that.
     
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    This is what I saw.

    A man walks out of his apartment aggressively. He sees the cop down the hallway to his right and immediately tries to hid the gun behind his back. He never notices the cop immediately to his left.

    As he starts to put the gun down, he brings the gun back towards his side, moving it in the direction of the officer. This movement is partially obstructed from the cop on the left, and very well could be taken as moving the gun from his back to the front to take up a position on who he thinks is the only cop there.

    He very easily could have tried to duck behind the wall/door and pull the gun towards the known officer and fire a round as the cop was backing away.

    Lessons learned. Its a bad idea to open the door for the police and come charging out. Its even worse to hide a gun behind you back when the police know you have it. Its the worst idea, after the cops feel threatened, to continue to move around quickly.
     
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    wow, this doesn't even have a page 2. I guess white lives really don't matter!
     
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    Then why did you even bother to post in the first place?
     
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    Having the gun really defended this guy's life, didn't it?
     
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    Because I wanted to.
     

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