WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

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  1. bringiton

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    It is the literal truth.
     
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    OK, I'll make it an award with an oak leaf cluster.
     
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    A man died.
     
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    I did and you never answered either, just squealed loudly about murder etc So, now answer my questions.
     
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    Don't talk rubbish, the police are heroes, this guy was an idiot who got himself shot.
     
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    My ANSWERS still stand UNCHALLENGED on their MERITS.
     
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    The VICTIM was MURDERED by a KILLER cop who FAILED to follow standard procedures and protocols.
     
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    Atrocious. The cop straight-up murdered him, just like George Floyd.
     
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    Then tell us all what they are?
     
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    Like what?
     
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    Eh? This officer shot a gunman he thought was about to kill his oppo? George Floyd was a drug addict with underlying drug problems who killed himself by resisting arrest. What footage did you watch?
     
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    No, that claim is false. He was not a gunman. He was an innocent man peacefully exercising his Second Amendment right to protect himself and his home.
    GARBAGE. He had no reason to think any such thing. No threat had been offered.
    The footage where the cop is self-evidently enjoying torturing Floyd for several minutes.
     
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    He had a gun so therefore was a gunman, he was innocent of any crime but his actions were crazy, he got himself killed. Had he dropped the gun he would have been find but instead he brings it from where he was concealing it behind his back to his side so it looks like he's bringing it to bear on the contact officer.

    Eh? What are you talking about? He's restraining him after a performing a legitimate arrest which Floyd resisted?
     
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    GARBAGE. A gunman is someone who has USED a gun. You are just makin' $#!+ up to justify the cop murdering him.
    That is absurd and outrageous. He behaved very normally.
    Flat false. He did not raise or brandish the gun and there was no discernible threat to the contact officer.

    I am talking about the look of almost sexual pleasure and gratification on the officer's face as he tortures the helpless and fully subdued Floyd for several minutes.

    We've seen enough of the atrocious, abusive BS you are trying to justify:

    Officer, screaming at the top of his voice: "DO YOU HAVE A FIREARM?"
    Calm civilian: "Yes, I am carrying my licensed firearm."
    "SHOW ME THE FIREARM!!"
    "OK, I have it right here..."
    "GUN!!!" BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM
     
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    That is flat false, plain and simple.
    Someone who has had a bad experience answering a knock unarmed, or knows someone who has had a bad experience answering a knock unarmed.
    No he didn't.
    I suggest you get your eyes tested, because the officer was self-evidently taking pleasure in torturing Floyd, even long after he had ceased to struggle.
    What nonsense. Somehow, your "rational" officers kill an order of magnitude more civilians than the presumably "irrational" officers in other advanced countries. For some countries, it's close to TWO orders of magnitude.
     
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    No one murdered anyone, a man with a gun is a gunman, plain and simple. Behaving normally? Who answers the door with a gun in their hand? He brings the gun around his side towards the contact officer. What look? You seem to be the obly one who saw that.
     
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    A gunman is a man with a gun, no matter what bad prior experience you've had who opens the door gun in hand? He brought it around from the small of his back towards the contact officer. What are you talking about, Floyd continued to struggle and the officer did what was necessary to restrain him, everything else is you imagination. American police deal with a much more violent society than other forces, they kill very few people and fewer now than ever before.
     
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    Garbage.
    People learn to do it from movies and TV.
    So you know that he neither pointed, brandished, nor threatened anyone with the gun.
    No he didn't.
    No, the officer took visible pleasure in torturing and murdering him.
    Look who's talking!
    They've CREATED a much more violent society than other forces by prosecuting the evil and insane War on Drugs.
    Not compared to police in other advanced countries, as already proved.
    Evidence? Violent crime rates have plummeted in recent decades, so that would imply fewer occasions for police to kill civilians; but I have never seen any data on police killings of civilians before the War on Drugs began in the mid-60s and violent crime skyrocketed.
     
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    The video shows the cop murdering him.
    So, a civilian answering the door was faced by gunmen...?
    Someone who thinks there may be gunmen on the other side. And he was right.
    So, no threat, no pointing, no brandishing, and he was then murdered.
    Anyone can see it.
     
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    Man+gun=gunman
    So we should ape what we see on TV?
    He took it from the small of his back and around his side towards the contact officer.
    Floyd continued to struggle hence why the officers continued to restrain him.
    What on earth are you talking about? When did you see that?
    The police did not create the violence in US society that can only respond to it.
    No, the US police do a fantastic job considering what they have to deal with which is more extreme than other countries.
    Those stats probably don't exist. The war on drugs is another issue but widespread coke, heroin and meth use didn't kick into the 70/80s. The police did not make violent crime skyrocket, their heroism drove the crime figures down.
     
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    No it doesn't.
    Gunmen? They were police!
    He brings the gun around towards the contact officer and that is the long, the short and the tall of it.
    No, you're seeing what your prejudice makes you want to see.
     
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    Yes, it does.
    You said anyone with a gun is a gunman. That includes the police. I said only someone who has used their gun is a gunman. That includes the police but not the victim. Clear?
    So you agree that at no point did he point, brandish, or threaten anyone with the gun, and was simply murdered in cold blood by the police officer. Check.
    You are not seeing what you refuse to see.
     
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    So the police officers were gunmen, and the murder victim was right to be prepared to defend himself against the gunmen at his door. Check.
    Police officers should be aware that they are the ones who are (purportedly) trained to behave safely in potentially dangerous situations, not civilians.
    So you agree that there was never any threat to any of the police officers, and the perpetrator just decided to murder him.
    That is objectively false. Floyd was only struggling to take a breath, which the officer gleefully kneeling on his throat stopped him from doing.
    When I watched the video.
    They created it with their evil and insane War on Drugs.
    It's more extreme because they are at war with the civilian population, and have been trained specifically to prosecute that war.
    Not any more, anyway...
    False. Heroin and cocaine were both widely used before they were prohibited. They just weren't associated with violent crime.
    Abortion drove the crime figures down.
     
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    No, they were uniformed police officers as anyone can see. Clear?
    So you agree he brought the gun around from the small of his back and raised it towards the contact officer? Check?
    No one was murdered in cold blood, 2 questions you must ask yourself;
    1. Did the cover officer genuinely think the suspect was about to shoot the contact officer?
    2. Was his belief reasonable in the circumstances?
     
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    1. They were uniformed police officers.
    2. No, everyone can see him bring the gun around towards the contact officer and the cover officer opened fire to save his life. You agree of course?
    3. Nonsense, Floyd killed himself when he took an overdose of drugs.
    4. What video did you watch?
    5. Society wanted the war on drugs, it seems to be changing it's mind now.
    6. No one is at war with anyone, the US police shoot fewer people than ever before.
    7. Possibly but there use was not so endemic until the 70s.
    8. Mass incarceration of young black men drove the crime figures down, abortion is now more common than ever but violent crime is skyrocketing thanks to BLM.
     

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