WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

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  1. bringiton

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    Who were gunmen according to YOUR definition, and who murdered him.
    No, that is self-evidently not what happened. There was never any threat to anyone's life but the victim's.
    No, because you made it up. He in no way threatened, pointed, or brandished the gun at any officer. Everyone can see that.
    And then held a cop's knee on his own throat for 8 minutes...?
    The one showing the murder.
    No it did not. The WoD was contrived by law enforcement agencies specifically to criminalize racial minorities.
    You have not provided any evidence for that claim. Police shootings were rare in the USA before the 1960s.
    False.
    Oh. Now I get it....
    Evidence for either of those claims?
     
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    And carrying guns, so by your definition, gunmen. And unlike the victim, they actually used their guns.
    No, he did not raise it towards the contact officer, nor did he brandish, point, or threaten anyone with it.
    Who knows what he was thinking? Certainly he had no reason to think so.
    You mean, his belief that he could get away with murdering a civilian? Yeah, it looks like his belief was quite reasonable.
     
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    1. No, who were uniformed police officers.
    2. Of course there was, he brought the gun around towards the contact officer.
    3. Yes, had he stopped struggling the officers would have released him. But it was his underlying health problems and drug overdose which killed him.
    4. What murder?
    5. Don't be silly, people were concerned about drugs and rightly so.
    6. Police shot people all the time before the 60s without consequence, they're now more accountable than ever before and have none lethal alternatives like taser.
    7. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...ootings-increased-166-from-2019-nypd/2598176/
     
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    No, uniformed police officers. The gunman brought his weapon around his side towards the contact officer. The cover officer had every reason to think the gunman was going to shoot the contact officer, didn't you watch the footage? What murder? He had a genuinely held belief that he was saving the contact officer's life and that belief was reasonable in the circumstances, he has no case to answer.
     
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    Remember when Trump said he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose any voters? The above is what he was talking about.
     
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    In the same circumstances he would have been justified.
     
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    I rest my case.
     
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    Glad we agree!
     
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    To me, he was surprised to find himself under the light and gun of an officer at his door, and then moved to put the gun down. The cover officer over reacted. Why would a man playing video games with his wife try to murder an officer who knocks on his door.
     
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    So - Here's the Mind Set - Here's the Rational [​IMG]
    why yellow cops who see themselves as Warriors end up murdering people
    ____________________________________________________________
    KSP Training Slideshow, Actually Quotes Adolph Hitler,
    As It Advocates For The Use Of ‘Ruthless’ Violence

    https://manualredeye.com/90096/news/local/police-training-hitler-presentation/
    _____________________________________________________________

    [​IMG]
    So goes that Thin Blue Line - serving & protecting
    And if you think for one moment this applies only to the KSP - Think Again !

    Hire a bunch of testosterone addled slow learners, to be YOUR Police Officers
    _____________________________________________________________

    Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
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    Idiot
    Dumb Ass Knuckle Draggers, fresh out of high school locker rooms. Either
    thug bullies or their victims. It does not matter which, so long as they have a seriously
    damaged self image of themselves. Let them Crank themselves Up on Roids - so that
    ....................................................... they can feel Hot, Hostile and good about themselves
    _____________________________________________________________
    THE HIDDEN WORLD OF POLICE ON STEROIDS
    https://psmag.com/magazine/the-hidden-world-of-police-on-steroids

    _____________________________________________________________


    Give them a badge and a gun, (a licence to kill) - Allow them to adopt and TAT themselves
    with Symbols that encourage Mindless Vigilante style Violence - like The Punisher

    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

    Get POS PIGs like this Gross-man, this (Filthy Psychopath,) to convince them that they
    are "Hero Warriors" - Sheep Dogs, set and trained to master and Control the Sheep,
    and who protect the gates of civilization from Anarchy with their Violence. -- Warriors who
    can act above any Law with "Qualified Immunity" - and beat to death anybody who defies them
    [​IMG] [​IMG][​IMG]
    _____________________________________________________________
    I Learned to Think Like a “Warrior Cop”
    A course from a prominent police trainer taught me to treat neighborhoods like battlegrounds
    —and to always be ready to kill.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/warrior-cop-class-dave-grossman-killology.html
    _____________________________________________________________


    MAKE NO MISTAKE ! -
    ANY PERSON WHO SEES THE PEOPLE HE HAS BEEN HIRED

    ........ TO SERVE, AS SHEEP - THAT PERSON IS UNDOUBTEDLY
    ......................................................................................................................................................................... A PIG


    And the RESULTS of such a 'Mind Set' will inevitably be Atrocities
    ....................................................... such as the SUBJECT of this Thread

    &
    [​IMG][​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Because people do crazy things, how many lethal force incidents have we had over minor traffic stops and the like? I agree with you except that the cover officer overreacted, watch the footage from his view and his view only, he was entirely justified.
     
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    So what you're saying is that the police are heroes and patriots and hypocrites who have never faced the situations they have will always find fault with whatever they do?
     
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    His view, angle, and judgment were negatively affected by the position he took. Is the hunter who shoots another hunter justified because he thought he was a deer? It is not murder, but it is exceedingly lamentable. An innocent man is dead in his own doorway.
     
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    A skull is symbol of death and terror, not justice, and you know it. But it is completely predictable and expected that you would pretend not to know it. Pretending not to know obvious facts is the principal "argument" one sees from the anti-rights right.
     
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    True: some people try to justify any murder committed by a police officer -- or even, potentially, a president.
    As many as trigger-happy cops trained to murder civilians could get away with.
    I have seen the video from his view, and was startled -- but not surprised -- when the cop suddenly murdered Whitaker. He had Whitaker covered, and did not even attempt to give him time to put the gun down.
     
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    So TRUE !............................................................. [​IMG]
    People are clearly and explicitly defined by the SYMBOLS that they use.
    A
    nd the -Totenkopf - presently used by many POLICE OFFICERS exposes the paper thin
    veneer of their self styled 'Heroic Warrior' persona to be a fraud and reveals their TRUE nature
    ................................................................................................................................................................................... and psychotic intent
    .................................................................. [​IMG]

    And we wonder why we are having Rioting in the Streets, when such stupid and/or
    ..... cowardly THUGS
    are given authority and see themselves as the bona-fide agents
    ....................................................................................................................... of social CONTROL

    ._____________________________________________________________________
    no not what I'm saying at all
    & be aware the Hypocrite lies in the sub unconscious strata of the person who takes on the Persona
    of Protector then wears the Totenkopf. - And NO - I do NOT find fault "with whatever they do"
    J
    ust when they Bully, Beat, or Murder people, for their own Cowardice or Thrill

    EG
    Here be one of OUR 'Heroic Warrior Sheepdog' protectors, facing a situation I have never had to face
    Putting one of the Sheep back in line, for having the temerity of looking at him the WRONG way

    Don't Mad-Dog Me!!!!
    Officer Detains Man & Mercilessly Intimidates Him

    while fellow officer's look on in embarrassment, - BUT, at
    the same time keep their mouth shut & back up the Brute
    !


    T
    his Goon never graduated out of the locker room were he no doubt ruled like 'A Lord of the Flies'
    and so was Vetted as having the proper psychology to make a fine
    Peace Officer. And probably
    now
    , sees himself as a 'Patriotic Heroic Warrior' deeply schooled in 'Killology'
    ( L
    t Col Grossman's term for 'the scientific study' of Murdering people)

    _______________________________________________________
    “Are You Prepared to Kill Somebody ?”
    A Day With One of America’s Most Popular Police Trainers
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/02/dave-grossman-training-police-militarization/
    ___________________________________________________________________


    Philando Castile was murdered
    by one of Grossman's graduates. 'trained to fear for his life' at the slightest provocation,
    and so shot Philando dead, when he reached for his licence, registration and insurance.

    Says the PIG:
    "Oh well, for an instant, he looked like a Wolf in Sheep's clothing to me !" -
    " & of course people like to Kill Cops when we stop them for tail light infractions." -
    "And anyway, the Taxpayers, the Sheep, will look after the grieving family."


    SO - Let's be Reasonable - Reasonablerob
    ARE WE SUPPOSED TO FEEL SAFER NOW, WITH SUCH COURAGEOUS WARRIORS
    AS THESE PROTECTING US
    ? - ARE WE TO BOW IN RESPECTFUL OBEISANCE
    TO THESE SELF DEFINED SHEEP HERDERS
    ?


    ___________________________________________________________________________
    4 Years After Philando Castile’s Death,
    His Mother And Best Friend Continue To Be Agents For Change
    https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020...stiles-mother-best-friend-pushing-for-change/
    ____________________________________________________________________________


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    Yoh Rob ! - You don't find it -
    Just a Bit of a - S t r e t c h -
    Calling a "SS NAZI Totenkoph Ring" a Symbol of Justice ?

    And TRUE, it is rather frightening to THINK that there are Police Officers
    out there, who DO see this obscene mathom as a Symbol of Justice
    https://antiq24.com/product/wwii-ss-death-head-ring-german-rings-german-skull-ring-swastika/

    ................................................... [​IMG]

    I suppose YOU would also find "The Kentucky State Police" using Adolph Hitler quotes
    as Motivation and Encouragement in the use of "Ruthless Violence" as Inspirational ?


    KSP Training Slideshow Quotes Hitler,
    As It Advocates for the use of ‘Ruthless’ Violence

    https://manualredeye.com/90096/news/local/police-training-hitler-presentation/
     
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    I had two unarmed white friends killed by cops in separate incidents 25 years apart. This is a bad shooting, but I don’t think it will go anywhere because he was armed. They clearly said police, and the guy answered the door like an idiot with a gun. No one answers the door with a gun held low. If didnt hear that it was cops , then why would he not ask who was there. If it was an intruder, who BTW don’t knock, then he would get smoked anyway. Could be too much meth ate his brain or it was suicide by cop ,and he held the gun low so his family would get paid. Either way he was a fn idiot. You have to know Phoenix cops are trigger happy. Suicide by cop is sad but it is what it is. Could also be a fake . The girlfriends reaction is like someone on a bad cop show, and he is heard saying something which would not happen after being shot at that close of range.
     
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    Au contraire!

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    1. What murder? Justified shoot.
    2. Because the poor police are forced to interact with these whack-jobs and forced to kill them in self defence.
    3. There was no time, had he not fired the gunman would have killed his oppo.
     
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    So basically you're rambling on in a nonsensical and hypocritical anti-cop narrative?
     
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    The video proves such claims are false and absurd.
    They voluntarily choose a profession in which they know they will be armed and trained to prosecute a war against the civilian population.
    At no point was there any discernible threat to anyone but the victim.
    In your imagination. The victim was self-evidently in the process of bending down to put his gun on the floor when he was murdered without warning.
     
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