Watching the Libs Imploding

No politician in Australia is worth pissing on with perhaps the exception of Bob Katter, but only because he is attempting to get Glass Steagall legislation thru...
Maybe we should replace all our male politicians with women....pft...what a fukin mess we'd be in then....

 

Well your absence lasted a long time.

 

What a quaint turn of phrase?

 

For those that are unaware Bob Katter MP is from Cairns, far North Queensland. I met him around 2007 in a restaurant in Shepparton.
A sin of an Afgan man he is very passionate and more intelligent than how his speech shows. An independent, he endeavors tirelessly to meet every constituent in his electorate which is about 8 times the size of Tasmania and has 100,000 people.
A man I respect.

Cerberus..."Pissing in the wind" is also a common saying...means talking crap

 

I just cant resist stirring suckers......

 

Actually he is from Mt Isa and they love him to death here and I have shaken his hand on more than one occasion. Katters biggest problem is ennui. He no longer makes an impact because fellow politicians put him in a box labelled “that’s just Bob”. He lost a LOT of my respect when he was one of the independents who could have asked for gold played toilets throughout his electorate but instead pissed the opportunity away. The north west has some very very real issues not the least of which is the fact that most governments, state and federal, ignore anything north of the Tropic of Capricorn and west of the Great Divide.

 

We have a stronger union membership than you do and the union backs Labor

 

I don't know about having a stronger Union membership. roughly 20% of Australians support a union. It is true that Labor is supported by the Union as it was commenced as a division of the union…


I would agree that there is less corruption in Australian union however, the line gets blurred when funding for Union political groups such as Getup come from Labor governments while actively promoting political stance.


Anyway, just little nit picking.

 

Just when I thought the Libs were done for, along comes Kerryn Phelps and sells Labor a poisoned glass of wine. Which they duly drink.

What were they thinking? They could wait until after the election and easily pass this refugee bill. Why did they make such a horrendous mistake? Watch the polls start to tighten.

The Libs may of lost the vote today, but gee, I think they will be raising a quiet glass tonight.

 

What is more important is how many "Big Businesses" rely on workers to make a profit.

A chair making company makes chairs because it has chair makers, not because it has senior executives. I agree good executives may make the company a more profitable company, but without the chair makers ,there would be nothing to make more profitable.

Increased profits usually lead to decreased employees in the long term.

The senior executives wouldn't even have a chair to sit on and count their profits, if it wasn't for the chair makers .

 

I understand what you mean. Australia has a stronger union membership then the US.

 

It will be interesting to see if the polls do go to the liberals. I personally think it will benefit Labor. Phelps kicked the liberals R's over climate change and refugees.

The real issue is, moving forward. Only labor is looking at a new 21st Century future, the liberals are clinging to an outdated coal powered 20th Century.

Moving forward is always good, yes we may make a few mistakes but we are moving forward. Backtracking and cherry picking the best of the past and saying 'it was good enough then" will not help us in the future, the future is here.

 

I am not getting into tribalistic politics here, I only see self obsession on both sides of the fence.

The fact is Phelps has given a lifeline to the Libs, intentional or not. Shorten is said to be livid with the timing of it. Understandable. Rumour is the internal ALP vote on supporting this bill came down to one or two votes.

ALP did not need this, they were cruising to a heavy victory, now things don’t seem so assured. Do not underestimate the feeling of the electorate on this matter. Shorten knows this and if it makes it through the Senate, which is not gauranteed, and one boat makes its way towards Australia.......

Shorten has had better weeks, even the ALPBC are reporting this issue as a double edge sword. Shorten will be praying it doesn’t cut too deep.

 

Don’t forget the Palmer factor. He has been promising tax breaks for people in rural areas

 

Actually his latest ad on television is very imflammatory for the ALP. It surely must be based on fact, because if it’s not he may have a large legal issue.

Katter will be more of an issue for the majors than Palmer, but clive is certainly persistent if he is anything.

 

Haven’t seen the latest ad bit then he is like Trump. Soon as he starts to speak my brain goes into switch off mode

 

I always said Shorten is about political expediency. He chases the popular issues and attempts to show with his support how great a person and politician he is. He lacks the conviction to understand the consequences of such decisions.

As I said this election is the ALP's to lose. Stupid idealistic and populist beliefs help the Coalition get out gaol free card arrive that much earlier. The clear disregard Shorten and his ALP party have for anybody who worked for a living and built for their retirement with the support of “if you don’t like it don’t vote for us” and his stand on Domestic violence and women’s rights of safety and security just stand to show just how bad his leadership is.

Phelps brought this on an agenda to stop off shore processing and the ALP showed they will revert back to the previous stance that saw 1200+ deaths. Their supposed stance of off shore processing to stop the incentive is shown to be a sham they introduced in the death throes of their previous demise in government that they clearly will return to so they can promote themselves on the politics of asylum seekers. Clearly showing their lack of humanity and compassion.

You bet the Coalition are raising a glass, Shorten just handed them a new baby overboard election, and they are so happy to pat themselves on the back for doing something historic is opposition so they can claim they are the better party…

 

It has been rumoured Shorten was livid about it. He argued the timing, but the left pushed past him and won the vote to support the bill behind closed doors. Albo and Plibersek flexing their muscle. If Backdoor does become PM it will likely mirror Turnbulls reign. How ironic.

 

I don't think Shorten is that smart, my opinion. I would have thought Albo was better, maybe not and I am not sure about Plibersek. Is this the sign of the ALP Melt down??? Not as outward as the Coalition but clearly this could spell the death of ALP government next election should it be exploited by the Coalition.



Mind you, I don't think Morrison is that smart either. He is out of the gate well with this issue. Message to Australia while new media to the world. Listened to a talk back on the ABC in SA couple days ago and they are already pointing out the political games by the ALP/Greens are diverting attention from come greater issues. If the ABC is saying it, it is clearly going to swing away from the ALP...



Can Shorten hold it together long enough to win the unlosable election??? Not looking so hot now.

 

And the first poll out this week, Ipsos, shows the gap tightening.

Political version of self harm. Crazy stuff.

 

As I say, the next election is not for who is best to run the country but the best of the worst.