Water Ship Down?

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  1. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Another Thresher incident?...
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    Argentine Navy looking for sub that's been radio silent for 2 days
    Nov. 17, 2017 -- Authorities said Friday they are trying to communicate with an Argentine Navy submarine that broke contact off Northern Patagonia this week, with 44 crew members on board.
     
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    Watership Down is the name of a fantasy novel in the early 1970s.
     
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    U.S. sendin' Navy's Poseidon Aircraft to Search for Argentine Submarine...
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    Navy's Poseidon Aircraft to Aid in Search for Argentine Submarine
    18 Nov 2017 - The submarine, with 44 sailors on board, was last heard from on Wednesday, 268 miles off the Argentine coast.
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    Satellite Signals Offer Hope in Hunt for Missing Argentine Sub
    19 Nov 2017 | Argentina's defense ministry said it detected seven satellite signals that may be an attempt by the submarine to resume contact.
     
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    Possible explosion aboard missing Argentine sub...
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    Possible explosion detected near missing Argentine sub's last known location
    November 23, 2017 - The Argentine navy raised the possibility on Thursday that a navy submarine missing in the South Atlantic suffered an explosion, heightening concerns over the fate of the 44 crew members.
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    Search for missing Argentine submarine reaches 'critical phase'
    November 22, 2017 - The search for an Argentine navy submarine missing in the South Atlantic for one week reached a “critical phase” on Wednesday as the 44 crew on board could be running low on oxygen, a navy spokesman said.
     
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    Holey beef stroganoff and cheap vodka...

    Even Putin has gotten involved.

    [​IMG] Russia – On 22 November, Russian President Vladimir Putin called the Argentine President Mauricio Macri, offering support. The equipment sent by the country includes special purpose ship Yantar and the unmanned underwater vehicle Pantera Plus

    Well it's a maritime thing that landlubbers don't understand.

     
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    Yup everyone wants to help.

    This today essentially became a salvage operation.

    But they need to find it first.

    There is an underwater debris field somewhere down there.
     
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    When I chose my specialty in the USMC -- infantry -- with ARTY as my second choice -- I decided that I did not want to be a fly-boy (we call them zoomies) or a boat-driver (sailor).

    I especially did not want to be an underwater idiot. Too dangerous.

    I just wanted an M-14.
     
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    Submarines aren't my department. Only crossed paths with a few who served on subs but had a sailing buddy who served 24 years on nuclear attack subs and eventually became the engineering officer on a nuclear attack sub before transferring to the Navy Reserves.

    It was really weird that in 2006 he was called back to active duty and sent to the deserts in Iraq. But that's a different story.

    First thing I asked knowing that the sub was diesel-electric, who built the sub ? Russian subs torpedoes have detonated in the past inside a sub.

    But the sub was built by the Germans and the Germans build excellent submarines.

    So what happened on the sub ?

    Did a torpedo detonated while submerged ?

    Being a diesel-electric submarine they have a bunch of really big batteries. Like really huge car type of batteries you have under the hood of your car. They are big.



     
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    I'm sure there will be a PBS special on this eventually.

    Diesel boats are not safe. Never were. Never will be.
     
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    But they sure are quit when submerged running on their batteries.

     
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    Yup I think that's what the Kelsey Grammer movie "Down Periscope" was based on.

    Great movie.

    Could not stop laughing all through it.
     
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    One of the better submarine movies of all times. A whale load of laughs.
     
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    Subs give me the creeps.

    Condolences to the families of those crew members. It's a bad way to go out.
     
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    Yup, great pirate movie too.
     
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    Water came down sub’s snorkel, caused battery short circuit...

    Argentina: Water got in sub’s snorkel, caused short circuit
    November 27,`7 — Water entered the snorkel of an Argentine submarine and caused one of its batteries to short circuit before the vessel went missing 12 days ago, a navy spokesman said Monday.
     
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    I saw that this morning.

    The sub was snorkeling at the time.

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    Argentina gives up on looking for survivors from missing sub...

    Argentina no longer looking for survivors from missing sub
    1 Dec.`17 — Argentina’s navy said Thursday that it is no longer looking for survivors among the 44 sailors aboard a submarine missing for 15 days, though a multinational operation will continue searching for the vessel.
     
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    Sad story. Being on subs is amazingly dangerous, even during peace time. Much like aircraft, if something goes wrong, the chances of surviving are just a roll of the dice.
     
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    RIP to all hands aboard the San Juan.
     
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    Oxygen makers are famous for exploding.

    Good riddance to Argentine military. Sayonara.
     
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