Wave watch: The blue wave is growing

They are too focused on the far left agenda while they miss the target with independents.

 

Count all those Walking Away.....and Trump gaining more support from Blacks, Latinos, and Asians. Repubs gaining more support. Their Blue wave is nothing more than a small ripple.

 

Have you noticed that nobody has defined or quantified what "blue wave" means? What is a "blue wave"? Is that the same as a swirly in a tank with blue water?

 

Well, they should, if you use history, pick up some seats, so not at all unusual if they do, right?

Yet I perceive great problems within that party, as the establishment corporate DP has growing factions that will not support corporate democrats, like hillary represented. And those that voted for hillary. I think the GOP will also in the future experience more of what put trump into office, a growing discontent with some who vote republican, but have finally discerned that party has no intention of representing them.

I think there are significant numbers on both sides that will still demand change instead of what both parties have given america. And until this works out, or changes the system, all bets are off, IMO. Basically on the democrat side, those that support the corporate democrats are on the way out, as a generation dies off, and replaced by people who don't want a corporate controlled party. And only because of this, in regards to both parties, do I have some optimism, as more americans wake up and realize what neoliberal capitalism, the scheme of globalism has wrought on average americans, and the paradigm of oligarchy, and what it has done to the common man.

But sooner or later americans would wake up to the fact of what the Princeton Study evidenced. That in reality average americans are not being represented in DC by either party. You can only hide that for so long, before economic suffering awakens a people from their slumber, and what MSM is doing, in hiding the obvious, the clear and present danger against a Republic.

We have more important issues and problems other than what gender a person is that is elected president. These problems put trump into office, and as long as the DP continues to ignore it, common, expected gains at midterm will not go far in waking up the DP, but insure that they remain asleep and clueless.

 

538 also predicted that Hillary had a 72% chance of winning. 538 doesn't have the credibility that they had before the 2016 elections. They kinda flushed that with a "blue wave" in their commode last election.

 

They had a feeling they would win the 2016 elections. They have lots of feelings.

 

For the time being... the Democrat, in my state (Bredeson) is now down by 13-15 Pts, based on who's poll numbers you use. The decision, I believe was the disclosure that Bredeson publicly said he had supported Kavanuagh, but his staff contradicted him in interviews that were filmed. Folks don't, now, actually believe that he wouldn't be anything more than a Schumer acolyte.. The voters here are rejecting him in droves.

 

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Regarding the waves, there is a political storm raging right now. There will be mighty waves all around.

 

You are not posting any facts and instead chose to try and troll. That is why you are ignored.

 

Trump was given a 28.6% chance of winning by 538, and he won the electoral college. With Clinton's lead diminishing considerably in the closing days of the campaign and White males without a college degree going heavily for Trump in 3 industrial states -78,000 votes making the difference despite Clinton's 2.9 million popular margin - Michael Moore was one of the few to have called it early.

I don't think Trump worshipers should depend on that aberration to repeat itself in every election.

 

I'm hoping that Hillary keeps making speeches. If she can get on the news every day between now and election day, I think we could have a red wave.

 

More like a huge wave of the blues, instead of a blue wave.

 

The DNC may wish to deploy Hillary and her husband on a good will mission to a Saudi consulate.


Meanwhile, a new reality-tv series, Dancing with the Rogue Killers, premieres this fall!

The 'Enemy of the People' Shuffle!​

 

Whatever it takes to keep your warm fuzzy feeling going I guess. They were 71.4 percent off. Hillary still isn't president. I guess maybe 538 doesn't know how the electoral college won. Reality isn't for everyone.

 

They thought Texas was in play and sent people to campaign there.

 

I'm going to guess that you never took statistics in college.

When the weatherman tells you that there's a 50% chance of rain tomorrow and it rains, that does not mean that the weatherman was 50% wrong.

 

Yeah, they keep doing that. What's the definition of insanity? Keep doing the same thing that doesn't work while expecting different results?

 

It wasn't 50% and it wasn't the weather forecast. It was 72%.

Look, this election isn't going to go the way the Democrats want it to. It was theirs to lose. They lost it with Kavanaugh. They lost the independents with that circus that Feinstein and the porn lawyer created. The SCOTUS nomination was the 2nd highest priority that brought conservatives out to vote in 2016. If the Democrats wouldn't have made it a big deal they would have had their "blue wave" but they made that same thing, that brought out the vote for Republicans, a thing again. They did what McConnell has been trying to do for aloomst a decaed, They united the conservatives in one cause by giving them a common enemy.

About polls. Check how the poll numbers go starting at three weeks out. The pollsters call it "tightening up". When the numbers "tighten" they almost always tighten in favor of Republicans. It happened in 2016. National polls don't mean anything. They aren't telling us what the votes will be for the electoral college. Several of the state polls got it wrong. The PA and Wisconsin polls got it wrong. Several polls of the states that were in the "blue wall" were wrong. Most of the public polls are bias. NBC/WSJ put out national polls in 2016 that had Clinton plus 12 points when everyone else had her at plus 4. The state polls tightened for Trump but not enough to be accurate. That is why the election was such a shock. Clinton's people were looking at every state and it still bit them because the polls for those states were wrong, in favor of Clinton until the vote was counted. Clinton spent millions on private polls. Pollsters don't have to be accurate until the last three weeks. That is the time period that determines how accurate a particular poll is. We are still four weeks out. Anything before that they can put out any information that they want to and polls do sway voters. They still got it wrong. They also got the polls wrong in the primaries. There are other factors that pollsters can't correct for. Most conservatives I know refuse to take part in a poll.

 

You make some good points. I don't understand why some on the left think moving to the hard left is some kind of solution to the partisan problem.

While the Dem's seem to have learned that bashing Trump all day long will not win elections, I do not see a coherent plan. I claim that the nation is yearning for an end to the partisan nonsense. political grandstanding and platitude speak.

I think the anti-establishment movement has grown bigger and the influence of the middle is growing by the day.

I claim, that the smart political move would have been for Dems to have put an end date, a deadline to the Mueller investigation and spoke out about Mueller going outside of the scope of the investigation - "fruit of the poisoned tree".

This would rally the middle to their cause - the cause of wanting an end to this partisan crap.

Trump is is own best friend but also his own worst enemy. I do not think we can draw any parallels between Trump getting the nod in 2016 and the midterms.

Trump got the nod on the basis of the public being pissed off with the partisan clown show. (and that Hillary was the most horrible of horrible candidates - many Dem women do not like her). While many may have suspected Trump would be an Establishment wonk - we did not know that for sure. With Hillary you knew for sure.

We now know that Trump is an Establishment wonk. He no longer has the "we don't know for sure" Trump card (pardon the pun).

 

Wave watch: The blue wave is growing

Nothing generates guesswork like politics.

 

FiveThirtyEight was actually more accurate than the vast majority of individual polls. By most accounts, even the P-Grabber himself was shocked that he won. Michael Moore having nailed it early was a fluke. His was quite the prescient call.

It should be acknowledged that the right-skewed Rasmussen, in its final poll released the day before the election, had Clinton leading by 2 points. Clinton took 48.2% of the vote, Trump 46.1%.

(A collaboration poll between Investor's Business Daily and TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence had Trump leading by two points. That was the only one favoring Trump.)

After 2016, presidential polls will be less apt to focus on the popular vote nationally. They should have learned that lesson in 2000.

 

Donald Trump wins support from Native American coalition.....


One more organization to the has announced their support for Mr. Trump. A newly formed Native American Coalition is made up of members who hail from tribal organizations in 15 states and include both grass-roots leaders and elected officials.


“The daily flood of new federal regulations keep Indian Country from becoming self-sufficient. Local tribal decisions, not federal bureaucrats, are the best way to improve our communities. As both an enrolled member of
Cherokee Nation and a member of Congress, I will stand with Donald Trump in supporting tribal sovereignty and reining in federal over-regulation,” said Rep. Markwayne Mullin, Oklahoma Republican and chairman of the group.


“As a local elected official, I am outraged that Indian Country is prevented from harnessing our own energy resources by ever-increasing regulations,” said New Mexico State Rep.

Sharon Clahchischilliage. “The Trump administration will ease restrictions on American energy reserves worth trillions of dollars. Together we will block the bureaucrats holding Native American businesses back and bring new jobs into our communities.”



https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-american-coa/

Oh my.....another group Supporting Trump and Repubs. American Natives joining in with Blacks, Latinos, and Asians walking away from the Demos.

 

There is a great deal of focus on Republicans' Brett Kavanaugh (aka the passing-out-drunk "Bart O'Kavanaugh") scandal and how it comports with the P-Grabber's misogyny, further energizing the #MeToo movement, but the same national demographic trends (amidst the steady verdict by most Americans that Trump stinks) were apparent back in June - older, white males with less education still the most devout Trumpers.

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Meanwhile, Trump is claiming that the repugnance most Americans feel toward him will not be a factor on November 6:

Trump says he won't accept blame
if GOP loses House


November 7, 2018
PURSUED BY STORE EMPLOYEES,
TRUMP FLEES POTTERY BARN​

 

See post #68.