We kill 400,000 Coyotes per year.

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I haven't killed one yet, but they do try to get at my chickens often. My neighbors have lost small dogs to them. My BIL has lost calves to coyotes. They are a nuisance here.
     
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    Back in the 70s in my husband's small rural town in kansas kids were paid for each coyote killed. They had a very high population and were considered pests.

    Where I live now I hear them yip and Howl in the wilderness that goes forever starting from our road. We NEVER see them..not even on our extensive security cameras and that how I like it. Once they start crossing the line we will shoot. I believe they would get the hint.
     
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    I am curious what you are trying to convey with your post.
     
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    Interesting article, I used to go to busse woods a lot in elk grove village a burb of Chicago I never seen one
     
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    I've never killed a coyote, but my son killed a couple of them for a friend who lived in a rural area. When she let her small dogs outside, the coyotes would come out of the woods and try to kill them. They had also lost their fear of her. So my son killed a couple of them, and that solved the problem.

    As your link points out, their populations are growing, not declining. They are very savvy and adaptable. There is no concern about shooting them into extinction. I live in a residential area surrounded by hills and farm land, and I often hear them yipping, usually right around dusk. In spite of efforts to reduce their population, they seem to be everywhere. It's not uncommon for me to see one cross the street in the farmland area I drive through as I go to work.

    I actually know an alfalfa farmer who likes them. Rodents (Belding squirrels) prey upon his crop, and coyotes prey upon the rodents, so no coyote shooting is allowed on his property.
     
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    Coyote or Domestic Dog Hybrids?

    The pictures I see of a coyote spotted in a local n'hood
    are not the coyote I remember.
    A spindly legged dog with close set small eyes and rabbit ears.
    Dog hybrids explain their lack of avoidance of people
     
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    There are too many where I live. Some are now on the road every morning, avoiding cars to get to the prey in the ditches.
     
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    I have shoot alot of coyote. Population here is way to high. Few years back we had mange hit them pretty hard. Shoot a bunch of nearly hairless coyotes to just put them out of their misery.
     
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    It's Darwinism. So many have been killed that the coyotes alive are the cream, the ultra-intelligent of all coyotes that have ever lived. But I'm rooting for the prairie dogs to escape every time.:)
     
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    I have never killed a coyote but I would if I had the opportunity. The fact that we kill 400,000 coyotes annually is not enough, we need to kill more. Coyotes go after people's pets and in some cases, children.
     
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    It's easier to kill coyotes on flat ground with little cover. Guys on the plains run coyotes until they get near exhaustion with old pickups. Then they release the dogs by the remote pulling of pins from pull down ramp cages in the bed. The dogs keep running them and tear them to pieces.

    Ordinarily even a large dog has no chance against three patient coyotes, but these good truck hunting dogs have every advantage. I've heard coyotes exhaust a hunting dog left in the woods overnight, keep it from water to dehydrate it, kill it and eat it a couple of times. I don't have night vision to make any attempt to defend such an unfortunate dog.

    Hunting coyotes in heavy cover there's no way you can get forty in a day.

    Cheers, and death to coyotes.
     
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    When I grew up hunting and fishing, I never saw a coyote in Florida. Now I see them everywhere. I don't think they are endangered. Peoples small pets are another story.
     
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    I'm not exactly sure why folks fear coyotes... They do a valuable service in the ecosystem, holding down the vermin populations etc. Live, let live. If you compete, protect what you're husbanding. Beyond that, folks need to try some harmony.
     
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    If you never listened to the Joe Rogan Experience about coyotes, its totally fascinating.



    To summarize, shooting coyotes is totally counter productive. The yipping they do is a type of census taking. If the population is declining because of violence, the females go into a super reproductive mode, where they produce bigger litters, up to 12 pups. They also disperse.

    It's counter intuitive, but the more coyotes you shoot, the more you get. That's why they have spread to every state and their population keeps on exploding. In national parks, where you can't shoot them, there are actually less coyotes and the population remains stable.

    So if you don't want more coyote, stop killing coyotes.
     
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    See my above post. The more coyote you shoot, the more you get. That dummies have been killing coyotes is why we have more coyotes and why they've spread to Florida.
     
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    You would probably see them now and again with a night trail cam.
     
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    Oops, didn't read the article. Scratch my uninformed "endangered" reference. BTW, Iv'e seen a couple that actually look like a cross between coyote and wolf, and resemble a long haired German Shepherd.
     
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    The more you shoot, the more you get.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/api.na.../08/coyote-america-dan-flores-history-science

     
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    They go after people's pets and sometimes they go after children too.
     
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    Then we should kill the females.
     
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    So, protect them. That doesn't mean you have to kill coyotes..
     
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    No. Same thing happens. Sends all the other females into super heat and scatters the pack. The more you kill, the more you get. They can sustain more than a 70% population loss every 6 months. Maybe even more. That's just to break even on Coyotes.

    That super heat produces 12 to 16 pups. Coyote gestation time is only 60 days. Even if you could kill every female Coyote within a 50 mile radius, it wouldn't matter because they break off into pairs and scatter. The scatter effect can move their territory hundreds of miles.

    Also what are you going to do, check their junk before shooting?

    There is no way to reduce coyote populations by killing them. This is proven by the fact we've been killing 400,000 a year and we just have more Coyotes than ever before.

    The ironic thing, as national parks prove, not killing them seems most effective in reducing coyote numbers.
     
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    If you want more coyote, go ahead and keep shooting coyotes.
     
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    "The ironic thing, as national parks prove, not killing them seems most effective in reducing coyote numbers."

    Put wolves, lynx, bears, mountain lions, and deadly snakes everywhere and shazaam, much reduced coyote populations.
     
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