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  1. Smartmouthwoman

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  2. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Great idea! Sounds like something he'd do, too!

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    Now ... especially now is not the time to question or
    get shy over supporting Trump.I think Alex Jones may have
    a point.The Knives are out.Of we should expect them to be.
    That means Alex Jones, citing himself and also guys who are
    very popular and vocal like Tucker.
    The Country is in the throes of a Takeover.Literally.
    No one is truly exempt.Because this Takeover has been in the
    making for years and it's now Gone Rogue.Affects most every American.
    Probably by design.But our president is only Human and mortal.
    I doubt he can keep up his energy level much longer.
    So don't go gettin' all soft and start doubting our President.
    Especially now.His strength is rooted in the strength of his
    supporters.
     
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    A rational view of such things absolutely requires examining the causative elements.
    The fact that people die if they fall off a cliff does not mean we must eliminate all cliffs- because the cliff isn't a causative element, the actual cause would be carelessness or a choice of suicide.
    When drunk drivers kill someone, we don't arrest the car.
    When a person dies of electrocution, we don't blame the electric company.

    But when a person dies by gunshot, the anti-gun people always think that the gun was the causative factor, not the killer- and somehow without a gun, the killer would have had no motivation to kill.
    I've wondered if some of them lie awake at night, fearing that the knives in their kitchen drawer might be plotting ways to kill them.
     
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    Amen from me!
     
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    Do you want to ban abortion in the USA?
     
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    I know you don't really give a rats about what I think, you are just looking for something to carry on about. However, I will humor you.

    Abortion is not my decision. I know that most women considering abortion do a great deal of soul-searching, and ask questions of themselves of great importance. There are times when this decision can alter the future severely, and make a good life for mother or child impossible- and I think the quality of life is very important. Since the mother bears all of the consequences of this decision either way, I think it is primarily her decision. I do think that it would be reasonable to ban third-term abortions, and with some possible exception, that abortion should not be paid for with tax dollars.

    Whether you agree or not makes no difference to me, this is the position I must take.
     
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    Lol @ the trans NBA vs supermodel comparison
     
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    I have No idea'r why you Prefer to play if safe when talking
    about Abortion.Most Obviously you have not been brought up
    in a Catholic Parochial school by Nuns.But then Madame Pelosi
    did and is Damned to Hell for her knowing right from wrong,Lying
    and the Ungodly evils of Abortion.The Taking of completely Innocent
    life.Not long ago { The 50's and even 60's } the thought of an Abortion
    was considered Evil.The saintly Mother Teresa of Calcutta spent the
    last years of her life preaching about the evils of Abortion.
    Even when brought to dramatic attention when the Abortion clinic
    of Evil Dr. Kermit Gosnell was found out.Reported on { barely }
    and the initial trials totally Ignored by todays MSM.
    That of course is how todays media ply their trade.By Popularizing
    and making fashionable Bad,Evil Behavior.You are being used in that
    vein.This new excuse that Woman have all rights to their body.
    It's their body,therefore it's their fetus,{ infant } to do with as they please.
    WHY? and HOW " because it's been made Fashionable.
    BTW Mother Teresa never proselytized.Instead she spoke often
    and simply about the Evils of Abortion.
    I think a Living Saint should be listened to.
    That's Just me.I'm funny that a way.
     
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    First- while I definitely believe in and follow a higher power, I do not believe in a god as typical religions do. My higher power teaches me- it does not dictate, and I make my own decisions.

    Abortions are natural in every aspect of nature- including people, who may abort spontaneously. Not to make this something light, because it is very serious- but so is the quality of life. Most importantly, it is simply not fair for me to intrude in the life of a person I don't know and dictate what they must do in choices that will drastically affect their entire lives while they remain totally disconnected from mine. I respect the right of every person to chose their own path, make their own decisions, and make their own mistakes- and live with the consequences. If and when those decisions have a direct effect on me- then I become involved. People are never going to agree on any view of abortions, but when they make their own choice and deal with their own consequences, who am I- or you- to decide what those things must be, when we do not participate in any way?

    The world is full of people who want to dictate other people's lives to them. That is why so much conflict, so much hate and division exist. We think our own beliefs are superior and we have the right to impose them on others, because we are righteous. So long as we don't have to be responsible, that is.
     
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    Yes,because it's now progressed to a meme and a Political
    right of passage.Given the Promise that when passed { Roe vs. Wade }
    it was Only to be used in certain circumstance.Life of the Mother.
    Rape,of course and issues dealing with having too many kids
    and the burden that places on a family.
    Which is why Catholics traditionally had large families.
    Where contraceptive measures were considered somewhat
    sinful.
    Now Abortion on Demand has turned into One Huge
    easy-breezie contraceptive measure.Where Satanically no
    consideration of said unborn needs even mention.
    Rational,Sane humans being prior to 1960 would have considered
    that Out of the World.We don't treat our Pregnant Pets like that.
    Unless of course those making cries for Abortion on Demand
    consider Females little above a Pet.
    What else is one to make of it.
     
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    I'm sorry, I don't debate with conspiracy theorists. Perhaps Alex Jones has a forum with folks you may want to have a discussion with?
     
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    No,No,No no no.You are wrong in the Extreme.Abortions were universally
    considered Evil and those who engaged/practiced in one are to be
    shunned from society.Things started to open up just a bit in the 60's.
    With Movies like Love with the Proper Stranger - { 1965 }
    Starring popular actors Natalie Wood and Steve McQueen.
    Find a copy of that fine movie and get a history lesson.
    It could be argued that Passing Roe v. Wade was the beginning of the
    downfall of Society.Because it was dependent on the notion of
    what most Americans believed.Whether Church going or not.
    That Life is precious.
    Abortion knocked that notion right out of the park.
    Now we are seeing what other kinds of notions can be knocked
    out of the park.Like Americans right to Life,Liberty and Freedom.
    Stripped right out from under us.Without as much as batting an eye.
     
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    Do you approve of taxpayer money supporting abortion clinics?
     
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    You mean you are just too comfortable being lazy in defending
    yerself as to what constitutes a Conspiracy Theory.
    Gee Louise.How lazy can one be.
     
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    Times are changing...

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    Hardest working administration in history.
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    You sound like you think abortion started with Roe/Wade; nothing could be farther from the truth. What Roe/Wade did was to bring abortions out of backrooms with coat-hangers and broomsticks being used as instruments and many people dying in the process- and make it a medical procedure done with knowledge and skill in a professional setting.

    It's been going on since ancient history was recorded and no doubt before it was recorded, and in every country in the world regardless of religions or laws.. The difference other than the safety and the stigma the social righteousness imposed on it is that we now recognize it's happening and deal with it instead of denying it and hiding it while doing it dangerously.

    Simple rule. IF you think they are evil, don't have one- and don't put any other person in the position of having to make a decision about having one.
     
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    Taxes don't support abortion. Where do yall get your fake news from?
     
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    IMHO the primary objection to abortion by most conservatives is the fact that the federal govt. OUR govt. Provides taxpayer supplied funding to Planned Parenthood. This funding goes a long way in making their dream of an abortion clinic on every corner come true. Abortion has been particularly devastating to the Black population. During one year, NYC had more black babies aborted than born alive. Where's their personal freedom?

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    Dems love PP.

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    #TRUMP2020

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    $60M-$600M annually depending on what you count in PP federal funding.

    Um, you do know the only money our govt has comes from taxpayers, don't you?
     
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    Um, you do know PP provides much more services than abortion. Our taxes don't fund abortions. Do you even know the law regarding this?
     
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    No, actually abortions are their most popular service. Besides general program support, millions more come from Medicaid payments for abortion services rendered.

    You're just looking to argue and I'm not interested. Vote for all the baby killers you want, I'll still be supporting President Trump.

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