We Support Donald Trump II

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  1. Smartmouthwoman

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    Great rally last night. The man's stamina and passion is unprecedented.

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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Can't imagine how it must feel to think you're right and all these people are wrong. True definition of delusional.

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    Life is fierce competition for the goods and services that economies provide. That is, unless you're an elite and all is gifted to you automatically.

    I wouldn't call it economic war with most of the world, just fierce competition with the rest of the world.

    And you don't want you and your descendants to be holding the short end of the club.

    When other countries get stuck holding the short end of the club just say "better them than me."

    It's much better to win than to lose. Vote prosperity.
     
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    The entire rally...

     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Beto's last gasp (before realizing he's not gonna be able to demand your guns).

     
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    Banks, like all Big Businesses, are always subject to the whims of the political leadership.

    "With nationalization, the patriotic family is appalled by the affront to its status and dignity. Guy escapes to the US, where he declaims: “A Jew under Pétain, a pariah under Mitterand”. The family bunkers down over its future. Tension arises as to strategy between David (son of Guy, born 1942) and Nathaniel (son of Élie, born 1946). Harvard-trained Nathaniel is for aggression; the French David is for discretion. The family chooses David."
    COUNTERPUNCH, The Fall and Rise of the French Rothschilds, BY EVAN JONES, FEBRUARY 22, 2013.
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2013/02/22/the-fall-and-rise-of-the-french-rothschilds/

    Trump's attacks on the Fed have alienated Trump from high finance, and his open hostility to FANG have made him an enemy of Big Bad Business. Bezos/Amazon/Wapo would not be attacking Trump 24/7 if he was an establishment wonk.
     
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    And that "propaganda state" has been at war with Trump .since he declared his candidacy. Trump, his campaign, his associates and his family have been subjected to electronic surveillance, clandestine operators/spies have infiltrated his campaign and his administration, and our 17 spy/secret police agencies, including the IRS, and a Special Prosecution team have been in full resistance mode at least since 2015.

    The USG's Deep State does not do that to "establishment wonks".
     
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    His RP opposition and the pink Democrats are too afraid of the mass movement that supports Trump to go into full open opposition.
     
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    Last night was amazing--record capacity crowd in that arena--the Fire Dept literally could not allow even one more person inside--with somewhere between 5 and 30 thousand more outside watching on the big screens. The Twitterverse was posting video after video of the amazingly long lines of folks waiting to get into the arena and the massive enthusiastic joyful crowd--some had been inline for a couple of days. And there was video and photos of large crowds watching in other places--almost every video screen on a flight tuned to the debate, etc.

    And guess what. No ANTIFA or other malicious, dangerous idiots assaulting attendees at this event. Why? Because this event was in Texas and not in blue states that revile law enforcement and tie the hands of police officers.

    No way Texas is going blue in 2020.
     
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    We have not been getting a fair deal. This has nothing to do with Trump waging economic warfare on our allies and other nations - to try to force them to abide by his unilateral Iran sanctions.

    You are engaging in some kind of denial/avoidance response - and so you avoid addressing the content of my post - because you can't handle information that conflicts with your blind partisan perspective.
     
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    You are conflating the Trade war with China -- with Iran sanctions.

    These are completely different issues. Your comments - with respect to the Trade war with China - I agree with them.

    What I meant by "economic war with most of the world" refers mostly to the Iran Sanctions issue.

    If we are going to battle hard with China on Trade - it goes without saying that having as much as the rest of the world as we can get on board strengthens our hand - and this is how we have operated in the past (smartly so).

    Waging economic war with the whole world at the same time - is a really bad idea - one that is not resulting in increased prosperity.

    It is one thing to unilaterally declare sanctions on Iran - quite another to try to force the rest of the world to go along with these sanctions by using the "Nuclear Option" - Threatening to block their banks and corporations out of the US system of international trade.

    This is the economic warfare that I am referring to - and the world is hitting back. These nations have stated directly - not in private - but on the international stage - using the strongest possible language/ fighting words - "You are messing with our sovereignty"

    If some nation did that to us .. how would people react. That nation would be shunned - their corporations shunned - and politely - or not so politely - shut out of the competitive bidding process.

    Do you think these nations will react any different ? How does this help our prosperity and who is getting the short end of the stick ? We are.

    Never in modern history have I witnessed other nations - including our allies- treat us like they are treating us now - giving us the middle finger en mass.

    Nord Stream (Germany) - going ahead - despite massive US protest
    Belt and Road initiative (Italy) despite mass US protest
    Various other in the EU giving us the middle finger .. even the Brits - letting the Iran ship go - despite US protestation.

    India (S-400 and other deals with Russia) Despite mass US protest and threats
    Turkey (S-400) despite mass US protest and threats.

    The list goes on and on. What do you think is happening behind the scenes ? Our corporations are being shunned - If you think you can mess with a nations sovereignty - and they are going to sit back and take it like they had to a number of decades ago -as we were the only economic game in town - your assessment of the geopolitical chessboard is very flawed.

    Lastly - "the nuclear option". We have the privilege of being the world reserve currency - this was given to us by the other nations of the world - and they can take this privilege away. The benefits of having this privilege can not be over stated - I can respond in another post if you are curious.

    The nations of the world have been wanting an alternative - a competitor to the "SOLE" status of the US dollar for some time. These efforts increased after the 2008 crash. The IMF for example introduced SDR's "special drawing rights" quite some time ago- this however could only be used Nation to Nation and is not available to corporations or individuals. Baby steps - but nothing resembling a valid competitor.

    Trump using the "nuclear option" was reckless and stupid - it broke the sacred trust given to us. The nations did not give us the privilege of being the "SOLE" system of international payments - for us to use as a club against them but, that is exactly what Trump has done.

    Nations are now literally rushing to come up with a competitor - this includes the EU. Obviously China/Russia/ Venezuela/ Cuba/ Iran -and numerous others have been working towards this goal. With the EU - they have critical mass. India is on board - and numerous other nations - Saudi Arabia and the gulf nations have warmed to the idea - as US is no longer the biggest customer.

    Make no mistake - have not a single doubt in your noggin - The day a valid competitor to the US "SOLE" status comes into existence - is the day the History Books will record as the defacto end of the US World Economic Empire. Full Stop.
     
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    From yesterday-and its TRUE.
     
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    Speak sense ? Please give it a whirl someday. A change of pace might be nice around here.
     
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    Do you really feel no twinge of conscience when you post something like this? Something that you cannot substantiate with a single shred of credible, verifiable evidence while those of us who know it is all pure crap have all kinds of verifiable evidence to contradict it?
     
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    Oh no! You dont say ..... you mean registered democrats are plum sick and tired of their hateful leaders with zero policies. Once they get to listen to trump without the msm spin on things it is all over but the crying. M.A.G.A. you think nervous Nancy looks nervous now, just try to impeach ...
     
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    Rather than peace and prosperity, democrats bring a message of communism and poverty.
     
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    Our main difference is... I'm a big picture person where you like to dig for details to support your assorted claims. You have dire predictions of the future because that's the only way you'll feel justified for hating on Trump. *same as all the haters.

    Srsly, Giftedone, who would you pick to replace Donald Trump?
     
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    Before the rally started last night, local news said they finally had an estimate of the crowd(from the police). 7400 inside and another 4000 in line. Didn't sound close to the visuals, but they never gave an update. Today I heard it was more like 20,000 (capacity) inside and 30,000 outside. Amazing how boldly MSM lies to us these days.

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    Putin is Trump's good friend, and Trump respects him greatly and respects what he says. How do we know this? Trump told us.

    Kim is also Trump's good friend. In fact, they fell in love and exchanged love letters. How do we know this? Trump told us.

    Erdogan is Trump's friend. How do we know this? Trump told us. "I just want to thank and congratulate President Erdoğan. He’s a friend of mine, and I’m glad we didn’t have a problem because, frankly, he’s a hell of a leader, and he’s a tough man," Trump told reporters this week.

    Trump has another friend, but he seems to have forgotten him. His name it Benjamin Netanyahu, and he is the prime minister of Israel.

    "US President Donald Trump has done little for Israel," former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told the Jerusalem Post. "Recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of the Jewish state and then the Golan Heights as Israeli territory were empty gestures. This was a declarative move: no substance," Olmert said. "The [Golan] Heights were annexed in December 1981 — 38 years ago. Trump's statement merely caused more controversy over Israel's control of the Golan focusing world attention on an area that had been largely ignored," he added

    Olmert saw no reason "to be surprised about the pullout from Syria," but that the US withdrawal is a reminder that Israel has only itself to rely on.

    "In the longer term, the clear evidence of the chaotic way the US president conducts business is worrisome," wrote the liberal daily Ha'aretz. "He seems committed only to himself. Against this backdrop, it's almost amusing to note the shrinking number of Trump supporters in the Israeli media, who need to employ a little sophistry to justify the actions of the supposed lover of Israel currently occupying the White House."

    Trump's withdrawal from the region not only strengthens Russia's position in the region, but also Syria's ally, Iran. Trump drove our former ally, the Kurds, into the hands of Russia and Syria.

    For Israel, the US troop withdrawal from Syria comes at an inopportune time. Iran has used Syria to challenge Israel for years, supporting Bashar Assad as a means of gaining a foothold next door to Israel. Paramilitary troops from Iran's Quds Force are closer than ever to Israel's borders. https://www.dw.com/en/israel-stuck-in-a-new-middle-east-amid-turkeys-syria-offensive/a-50847541

    There is more, but the reader gets the point. The Kurds were not the only ones Trump betrayed.
     
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    Adolf Hitler drew similar crowds. So does Vladimir Putin. Crowd size doesn't mean a thing. When it comes to employment longevity, competence is the only thing that counts.

    And that is a factor completely that is completely ignored by some.
     
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    Considering every person attending represents a vote, Trumps rallies are 100% red, white & blue made-in-America events. The scripted reference to Hitler & Putin comes straight from the left's playbook. Still irrelevant.
     
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    Trumps too busy fighting off fellow Americans to save everyone. Wanna help Israel? Quit ragging on the president.
     
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    I think that never in the history of the US have we seen voters as receptive to propaganda as the Trumpsters.

    So, you think that filling a stadium with 25,000 folks - in a city with 1.5 million people - proves that he's more popular than ever?
     

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