We Support Joe Biden!

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  1. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    I'll do more than watch & see and I suggest you do the same. Biden is gonna need a LOT of support. Although this pandemic has saved him from more embarrassing public appearances. How lucky for him, huh? I know y'all hope it lasts til November, for his sake. Mail in ballots the Dems can rig is the only way they can win. And they know it.
     
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    They didn't shoot missiles over our Allies. They are no longer threatening to nuke us.

    No ****, we have the virus hitting us and most of the nation in lock down. Did you expect the economy to grow under those circumstances?

    It's time for the Afghan Army to protect their own country. We gave them tthe equipment and training. Should we stay there forever?

    Obama ran up more debt in his two years than all Presidents combined. Much of Trump's debt was to fix what Obama didn't. Military and VA. Yes this relief package will add trillions to the debt, which your Party helped run up.

    Only because of this virus and you know it. The economy was red hot right up to the virus striking us. You guys are sinking to the bottom blaming lost of jobs, and lower economy on Trump when you know it's the virus that caused it.

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    The numbers: The U.S. created a robust 225,000 new jobs in January to get off to a good start in 2020, reflecting surprising resilience in the labor market even though manufacturing has contracted and the economy has softened.Feb 7, 2020

    U.S. adds 225,000 jobs in January as hiring speeds up again ...
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    It's a conspiracy!! No evidence for that as well as all the bologna scandals against Hillary Obama and everyone else. All investigated nothing but garbage propaganda. And don't tell me about that conspiracy either.
     
  4. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell me do you expect Biden to even come close to rebuilding this economy after this virus is under control? He wants to repeat Obama's success in running it. How did Obama do?


    Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid ...
    www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/economy/...
    Apr 27, 2014 · Economy Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid Ones
    How good were the 10.9 million jobs under Obama?
    Money.CNN.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/...
    Nov 03, 2016 · CNNMoney breaks down what kinds of jobs have been created and ... Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs,

    The deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.

    In essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones. That is the conclusion of a new report from the National Employment Law Project, a research and advocacy group, analyzing employment trends four years into the recovery.

    “Fast food is driving the bulk of the job growth at the low end — the job gains there are absolutely phenomenal,” said Michael Evangelist, the report’s author. “If this is the reality — if these jobs are here to stay and are going to be making up a considerable part of the economy — the question is, how do we make them better?”

    The report shows that total employment has finally surpassed its pre-recession level. “The good news is we’re back to zero,” Mr. Evangelist said.

    But job losses and gains have been skewed. Higher-wage industries — like accounting and legal work — shed 3.6 million positions during the recession and have added only 2.6 million positions during the recovery. But lower-wage industries lost two million jobs, then added 3.8 million.
    HTTPS://www.nytimes.com/…/recovery-has-created-far-more-low…



    77 percent of 2013 jobs were part-time positions ...
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/2/part-timer-nation...
    Aug 02, 2013 · Fully 77 percent of positions added to the market in 2013 have been part-time, in contrast to the positive economic news making the media rounds, according to payroll reports released in recent weeks.

    "There are now 1.2 million fewer jobs in mid- and higher-wage industries than there were before the Great Recession, according to data from the National Employment Law Project. In contrast, there are 2.3 million more jobs in lower-wage sectors than before the recession," according to CNBC. Nor is there the hoped-for renaissance in American manufacturing. We have some 300,000 fewer manufacturing jobs since President Barack Obama took office and 1.5 million jobs below the pre-recession level.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/08/23/the-part-time-economic-recovery
     
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    All possible. But there's no way I would ever voted for the local schoolyard bully. Biden isn't Trump and he isn't a bully, he hasn't to my knowledge gone around calling others names like a four year old spoiled brat. Biden doesn't create needless feuds just because someone has a bad thought about him. Biden is far from the ideal presidential candidate, that I'll give you. I can live with a center leftist who respects the office and doesn't turn it into a media event of egos and a personality more due to a WWE wrestler in a pre-bout interview show of the contestants.

    Far as I'm concerned the fact that Biden isn't Trump and isn't Clinton and isn't Sanders or Warren, what he isn't is more of a determining factor in my vote for him than what he is. In short, I'm much more comfortable with Biden as president than with Trump or any of the others I mentioned. All of which I'm very uncomfortable with.
     
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    good graph youcan see very little difference between the two except wages have finally started to go up. Nobody could understand why they did not under Obama. I believe quite a bit of that is Democratic states and cities raising their minimum wages which is incredibly over due thanks GOP.
     
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  7. Daniel Light

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    Crap happens.
    Obama didn't start both wars and he didn't start the economic meltdown of 2007, but you applied the relief packages, and
    the war costs, voted on by both parties, to Obama.
    Trump didn't start the virus, but he was in office during the recovery efforts, so using your metrics, the $7 trillion in debt
    he wracks up will be his. Trump will be listed in history books as having the fasted drop in GDP in history. It will read that he was President when unemployment jumped above what it was when he took office. It will be listed that the US went into recession in the final two quarters of his first term. Just the way it works.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you have a great misread. It not so much what Biden is as what he isn't. So we'll see. I do think if Trump had the personality of a Reagan, he'd probably be waltzing to reelection, but Trump's persona turns a lot of folks off on him. Perhaps a lot of them are looking for a president that acts presidential. Especially independents. Let's fact it, Trump isn't a likable guy and that fact more than what he has done or hasn't done as president probably will be the deciding factor come November. But we'll see.
     
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    This isn't garbage propaganda.


    Grilling Comey over Hillary's E-mails

     
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    No, what he did was raise taxes on business so we had the highest corporate tax in the world and then put on near record regulations so that business couldn't compete. If you can't compete, you either move or go out of business. Your Party is talking about going back and doing the same stupid thing


    In a race to the finish, Obama administration presses ahead ...
    www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-a-race-to-the...
    As the future Trump administration begins to take shape, the Obama White House is engaged in a frenzied, final effort to put in place as many new rules and regulations as time allows.



    20,642 New Regulations Added in the Obama Presidency
    www.dailysignal.com/2016/05/23/20642-new...
    More than $22 billion per year in new regulatory costs were imposed on Americans last year, pushing the total burden for the Obama years to exceed $100 billion annually.



    The U.S. Has the Highest Corporate Income Tax Rate in the ...
    https://taxfoundation.org/us-has-highest-corporate-income-tax-rate-oecd
    In today’s globalized world, U.S. Corporations are increasingly at a competitive disadvantage. They currently face the highest statutory corporate income tax rate in the world at 39.1 percent. This overall rate is a combination of our 35 percent federal rate and the average rate levied by U.S. States.
     
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    I put policy over personality, I see what the Dem/Obama/Biden policies did 2007 - 2015 and we are going to faced with having to get the economy into a new recovery after this. Put Biden in the White House, Pelosi in charge of the House and a possible Democrat in charge of the Senate and that is a recipe for another disaster.
     
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    Just tell us how you expect the Democrats to even come close to building this economy with Obama's sick policies, or come close to matching what Trump has done? He and Obama want to go right back to it but make it even worse by some of the dumb thing Biden wants to do by bringing two million more migrants and starting up the Green New Deal that will get rid of more companies?
     
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    No one started the economic meltdown but the Democrats were in charge of the Congress with a lame ducked president starting January of 2007 a year before the recession and Obama and Biden were both full voting members of that Congress and supported the Democrat policies and lack thereof. Trump will be listed in history as the President when a global pandemic hit and the global economy when down the tubes due to the measures that had to be taken during that crisis and nothing more. He will not be "blamed" as much as you on the left want to "blame" Presidents for everything even when they have no control over them.

    Is it really the depth of your intellectual analysis that ALL that matters is who was President? Do you REALLY think the history books will write it in such intellectually lacking terms as "The economy took a nose dive and Trump was President all his fault"?
     
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    Trump is not outspoken. He is an inarticulate narcissist.
     
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    Trump has done nothing. No economic metric changed slope or direction since he was elected except of course the national debt.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You want to vote against Trump because of the way he comes across and not by what he has accomplished? Good thing Lincoln didn't feel that way about General Grant or Roosevelt felt about Patton. Both said they couldn't have won the war without them and both had a bad personality. But they were good at what they did.
     
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    I won't call you an idiot, after all I put up. But let me say you have been so badly misinformed or a reading problem. Your not even in the same ball park.
     
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    Everything you stated is the absolute truth about Trump and his accomplishments. The fact that the leftist allied MSM refused to tell their viewers and readers ANY of that truth counts to why thinking people now consider most media outlets to have become nothing than political propaganda mills for the Democratic National Committee. Their true job is to keep Democrats in power; and nothing else. It should make the average Dem Party voter at least begin . . . to . . . think. But it won't.
     
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    Nope. The establishment is not going to let Bernie be the nominee. They screw him over every time.

    No need, take a look now. Biden is an awful candidate.

    No, in the end it is all about results. obama delivered dismal results.
    LOL! The food stamp president....sure, sure.

    The debt was ran up under obama and Trump did not cause the virus.

    No it will not.

    Not the millions of people who have healthcare coverage thru their employer. Maybe 71% of the folks on Twitter.

    No they do not. Millions of people have health insurance. Only the freeloaders want what you are peddling.
     
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    yes well post an economic metric that has changed slope or direction since Trump took office. Of course you can’t so you will just indulge in name calling . And you should probably look up what an economic metric means.
     
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    We elected him because of what he said he would do and we liked what he said and we hated the part time, low paying economy Obama created. He has done wonders in just three years bringing back this economy, getting the wall and bringing back manufacturing. America couldn't continue to be a world economic and military power with low paying service and part time economy. Try and look at the whole picture.
     
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    Let me repeat it for you as you seemed to miss it.

    We elected him because of what he said he would do and we liked what he said and we hated the part time, low paying economy Obama created. He has done wonders in just three years bringing back this economy, getting the wall and bringing back manufacturing. America couldn't continue to be a world economic and military power with low paying service and part time economy. Try and look at the whole picture.
     
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    Guess the Tech wizards are going have to Introduce an Android 3rd party candidate for POTUS 2020 running the Spock Vulcan program
     
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    That's big mouth GOP James Comey making mountains out of molehills. Nothing ever came out of any of it. 60% political coverage was about emails for God's sake. That is the height of the GOP propaganda machine. They have a whole other planet.....
     
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    Out of context innocent photos. Don't be ridiculous.
     

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