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  1. yguy

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    Obviously that's what you're hoping for; but even if I were fool enough to allow that...

    ...you know perfectly well that the mere failure to act would not have been sufficient to achieve that - which is why you had to lie about what I said.
     
  2. Bob0627

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    Understood and agree. Already did obviously when I said (and you quoted):

    "A war crime is a war crime is a war crime no matter who does it or who wins or who loses."
     
  3. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup, you're still upset.

    No, I don't lie nor did I lie about your post. You're obviously have a very strong emotional reaction my disagreement with you. When you calm down, please point out where I lived about you. If you can't do it, no worries.

     
  4. yguy

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    Hey, keep thinking happy thoughts. Won't hurt me none.

    8)
    Well I wouldn't know your habits in that respect, obviously...

    ...but the fact you're lying now suggests you're...well, shall we say, overly charitable in your assessment of your own history.

    Bad try. ;-)
     
  5. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Those terrorists have always been on the American payroll.
     
  6. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    As I said before, it's stupid to take prisoners during war. They are nothing but trouble. The best option is to always kill them.
     
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    Besides that you have a problem with the logic of time and political propaganda (Who are "the Germans"? Who are "the Americans"? 40% of all Americans have a German ancestor for example , Jews were Germans like all others for example and in general most Germans were friends of the USA since the USA was existing and so on and so on ...). Whatever. ... The name "werewolves" is a linguistic game. "Werwölfe"="Wehrwölfe". "Wehr"=defense "Wölfe"=wolves. "The wolves of defense". They were a group of brainwashed teenagers, and some of them did not like to accept the result of world war 2. If you see in them terrorists then you have also to call all partisans of world war 2 terrorists - but this is wrong. The partisans who fought against Germany during world war 2 were for example not criminals, because they fought out of a position of weakness against a very strong enemy. This is the only way in such a case. Nevertheless the partisans on the Balkan were famous for their unbelievable cruel brutality. The "Wehrwölfe" were children - not only compared with real terrorists or real partisans - they were really children. The only crime the werewolves made was an attack where 16 people died. The Russian bolshevists arrested about 10000 of this teenagers as prisoners of war. I guess many died in the Russian gulags.

    Because I think about now - and about many other crimes - also crimes made from "you"- ah sorry "the USA" ... : Perhaps I should really sell exchange brains.

     
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    That's why Hitler was right to say every soldier should fight until he's dead in Stalingrad. The soldiers who died there had a more easy death than the soldiers who became POWs. The other solution would had been not to make this totally superfluous battle.

    May I ask why you are in war with Christmas?



     
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    Yes it was some of what President Obama did besides bringing back our economy from the Great Recession Is something wrong with that?
     
  10. Professor Peabody

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    A war crime is a war crime is a war crime no matter who does it or who wins or who loses.

    Principle V. Any person charged with a crime under international law has the right to a fair trial on the facts and law.

    What about Principle V?

    Principle V. Any person charged with a crime under international law has the right to a fair trial on the facts and law.

    Were Anwar al-Awlaki or Abdulrahman al-Awlaki afforded the right to a fair trial either under international law of the US Constitution? They would have been convicted of treason and hung in Leavenworth. Who appointed Obama Judge, Jury and executioner? Please give us a good and legally valid reason why Obama isn't guilty of a War Crime.
     
  11. Professor Peabody

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    With a less than 2% GDP growth rate over all 8 years of his Presidency, yea there's something wrong with that.
     
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    Then you have a problem with god, Nazi - ah sorry: Bolshevik ... oh - sorry again: Capitalist ... or how else do you call your ideology of death? ...

     
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    The joke is not that America, Europe, Russia, India and China (and other parts of Asia and Africa too) wan against Japan and Germany. The joke is the war itself.

     
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    You should be happy. Because of the hard work President Obama did bringing us out of the Great Recession...........

    Trump has time to watch TV , tweet, play golf and eat at McDonalds ! Ha !!
     
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    Were lefties concerned with the government when obama was murdering people with drones?
     
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    Now all you have to do is stop evading and show where I lied about your post.
     
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    Prove it. Motive would be nice too. Lemme guess that at the bottom of it you'll blame "the Jooos".
     
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  19. Bob0627

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    Of course not.

    Probably true, by a US military kangaroo court. However, in a valid constitutional court of common law with all due process rights granted, I'm not so sure. Where's the evidence? Oh that's right, it is whatever we're told it is. They're dead so they have no recourse to defend any charges against them. Then again, they were never charged by the US of committing any deadly crime (note Anwar was charged and arrested twice in the US of soliciting prostitutes).

    Obama committed multiple crimes against the Constitution, so did his predecessor and successor.

    Obama has committed multiple war crimes, so did his predecessor and his successor. Having said that, the most legally valid reason why none of these war criminals are guilty of committing war crimes is because none of them have been charged, tried and convicted of committing war crimes. Due process is a right constitutionally protected for everyone, including those who commit war crimes. But without charges, trial and especially conviction, everyone (including Presidents and the Awlakis) is innocent unless and until proven guilty by a valid court of law.
     
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    Whatever dude. You have a different view than me and a rude disposition that is not worth debating.
     
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    Any nation is allowed to defend itself against terrorists, saboteurs and enemies.
     
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    Who gives a nation this right? More concrete: Who gave Mr. Smith from the USA the right to throw a bomb in the living room of Mrs. Mueller in Nuernberg, because Hitler and Stalin had decided to attack Poland? What kind of automatism is this?

    Not a problem a nuke is not able to revise. The only problem: Everyone who likes to kill you - or other people who are speaking like you - will kill also a lot of other US-Americans with this method, who have nothing to to with your criminal way to think. You are calling the problems which your are on the other side not able to solve.

     
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    I read what a surgeon reported from the 30 years war (1618-1648 AD ). What he said convinced me to say: War may not be at all. Wars are impossible latest since the 17th century. World war 2 was only a Sunday afternoon stroll.

     
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    So are you willing to say the same thing about the Bundy's and their rag tag team when they took up arms against Federal agents.?

     
  25. Professor Peabody

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    Let's compare shall we.

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    Obama: 2009 to 2017 less than 2% mean GDP growth.

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    Reagan 1981 to 1987 4% mean GDP growth.

    Even Jimmy Carter did better than Obama.
     

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