Welcome to John the Confederate

I have brought so far that I am aware of, two who are loyal followers of PBS here. I really have openly invited them here no matter their politics. Kathie Harine is here at my beck and call.

John has views that engage one in to believing in freedom. I welcome him here. He may lurk for a time but can be counted on to be truthful to all of us.

 

@Robert

Where is John the Confederate?
I'm looking forward.

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Although I do prefer the Bonnie Blue flag and took down my flag of the Federals
some years ago in favor of the Bonnie Blue Flag.

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Every State is a Bonnie Blue Flag that Bares A Single Star. Not just southern ones.

Is John the Confederate at all concerned about the Federal's occupation of Rocky Mountain and Pacific States?


Will John the Confederate promote removing the Federals from 45.3% of Moi's California?

Where is John the Confederate? @Robert

 

John was told by me he has been welcomed. I do not run his life. Be patient please.

 

do we still have Confederates?

 

Frankly there are a large number of astute people who do still fight for freedom. I won't go so far as to say they call themselves confederates. But the movement to promote freedom still lives. Imagine them as the more contemporary George Washington types.

 

I do not think of Confederates as fighting for freedom, most I see seem to be white nationalists

 

That is your problem and I could of course do my best to show why you are wrong. The North wrote history. And the North came up with that excuse due to the massive deaths due to the Abe Lincoln invasion of the South. Had he not invaded, the deaths would not have happened as they did. The Confederates did fight back the invasion. And for a while, they were looking better than Abe's forces did.

Abe did not declare war on the South due to a race issue. He alleged it was his attempt to secure the full union.

I am curious too. Why do bigots believe it was white nationalism?

 

How often are you interacting with confederates?

 

Has John even accomplished one upload?
Link please

 

Sure do.

 

I see them when they get out there, like when they marched with tiki touches in Charlottesville

or this guy

 

Thanks for the invitation and introduction Robert, and hello everyone. I will come clean with you all, and I understand, if you desire me not to be part of the discourse.

I am a White Nationalist. With the federal government's growing involvement in identity politics and in state rights, I have gone way to the right over the years. Looking at demographic projections, the white race will become a majority minority around the year 2040. I have every reason to believe, once a minority, the white race will not be treated as fairly as the POC have been treated. This is not an environment I find comforting to leave my children. I find not one politician that can say anything positive about the white race. And since I believe all politics are identity politics, and whites do not form collectives, or are as ethnocentric as other races, there looms a great problem for my white brothers and sisters. We do not form a voting blocks that protect our interest and what's best for our race.

I am not alt-right. I am further to the right than that. I am balk-right. I believe that America, already balkanizing, evidenced by white flight, will continue to do so, until we get white ethnostates, or die trying. One can see how HUD and other federal agencies have chased whites, no matter where they move, forcing cultural diversity. So, our "democracy" is not democracy, and I have given up on the Republic, thinking it dead. And I believe its coffin was made in 1965, with the immigration act of that year. It is my view that cultural Marxism has destroyed our Republic. Our founders, in the 1790 Immigration Act, stated the immigrant, "be white men of good character." This has changed over the years, and if one reads Kevin MacDonald's 'Culture of Critique', one can understand my views on what/who caused this.

I have went from Communist in my youth, to conservative, after college, to Civic Nationalism, to White Nationalism. I desire a white ethnostate under National Socialism. I think it the only way to rebuild the white race. We whites have two real bad weaknesses when competing with out groups. We are too objective and have too much empathy. I first read this in Mein Kampf, and have realized this through observation, both of my own life, and that of most my white brothers and sisters. And when competing with out groups that are very ethnocentric, this is a danger to the secure existence of my people and the future of white children.

I don't believe diversity is our strength. I believe diversity is code for anti white or white genocide. One must ask himself why is it only white countries that have diversity forced upon them. Why not Israel, Japan, China, and Africa, for example? One must ask himself what makes a nation. One must also ask why a great deal of Jewish Americans that have dual citizenship, desire open borders for America, while supporting closed borders for Israel. I hear you already, "get out of here NAZI." Well, all I can say is I told you the truth and gave my reasons. I am an unapologetic White Nationalist and work within the White Nationalist Movement. If you desire to hear from me no more, I understand. "Here I stand, I can do no other." My work is for the white race, until I am planted in the ground. Understand, I must do this, because I do not want to be a traitor to my nation, my race, and my very own children. Death before slavery. Hail Victory!

 

What was your interaction with this guy you posted? And how many of the protesters did you speak to about their views?

 

Then why do they name themselves after a faction that seceded from the US in order to preserve the "right" to own other people? I don't think most modern "Confederates" are racist; just curious why they name themselves after an openly racist historical movement. Not that the Union wasn't full of racists too, but the Confederates made slavery their "cornerstone."

 

Well you called this one spot on.

 

I am so sorry someone managed to twist the story of the war of the South. Look, they already had that right to own slaves. Even though today we believe slavery is wrong, back then it was totally legal. Notice those hating slavery love G. Washington who was super rich and owned hundreds of slaves. But he gets a pass from today's democrats. Today's democrats do not call to change the name of Washington DC to King town. They owned the slaves in the first place.

Racism is natural. It has saved millions of lives while of course put others into grave danger. But like the bite of the lion is natural, so is racism.

Get over it. We never can control the thinking or hearts of all humans.

The men of the South had no choice but to fight. Abe the outlaw president invaded them. We all would fight an invasion force.

Let me give a constructive view of racism. The American native tribes until close to 1900 fought the whites. That was sheer racism. I find that there was nothing wrong with the tribes fighting for their freedom.

 

Now, had a black man showed his face and said he was fighting for blacks, democrats would clap and shout and jump up and down. But let him speak for whites, and my hunch is he catches all sorts of hell.

What is wrong with this country? Why do they want to rid the nation of white people? Evidence is the gloating over the idea of this nation losing whites and turning black or brown. That seems welcome by Democrats.

 

Read post 10 good man.

 

Because it was. Abe did not declare war directly due to racism. He declared war because of a attack on an American Fort which was a bi-product of racial slavery. Slavery was the economy of the South and they felt justified to succeed so it could exist and be extended to other territories. The invading force always has a bigger project to tend to. Final point, the North did invade and kicked butt! Sure, at first the moral high ground seemed to be with the South as their homeland was invaded, but around the time of the emancipation proclamation they lost that high ground. Southern soldiers deserted in droves some of them deciding they would no longer fight so that wealthy aristocracy could own slaves that competed with their labor. That's just like today, many of us in the building trades are forced to compete with illegal immigrants that don't play by the rules....and we don't like it either.

 

Do Jewish people count as White if they look, "White"?

Moi

Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

Here it the thing. You have spent your life being educated that the North was right. This of course means the South was wrong.

Wrong about what? You speak of an isolated fort that was fired at. Question was to what result? Who died?

Reply, walls where hit. Men did not die due to the cannon fire from the South. Why is that? Almost out of range. Cannons then were not remotely as good as modern cannons are. Today that fort would be rubble. Then it was hit.

You keep bringing up slavery as were it the mission of Abe the outlaw to stop slavery. But that was not his mission. When he invaded, he wanted territory. The war was fought in Abe's invasion over territory. The South had it and the North wanted it.

Your Northern sympathy teachers groomed you well.

In my case, I look at it as were I from a completely different continent and assess both sides problems, goals and war systems.

The North lost Manassas in the first invasion. How do you think the besieged South felt when invaded by Abe? The forces of the South did not start the war invading the states of the North.

Due to the slave issue, introduced by Abe with his proclamation, it is attempted by the North sympathizers to blame it all on slavery.

States departed the union with slavery as a major issue. But Abe did the invasion.Bear in mind too what Abe had promised to the South. That he was not going to interfere with slavery.

 

Sometime read about the Douglas debates. Lincoln always thought slavery should be abolished. The area I was raised in (Indiana) was settled by North Carolina Quakers who left because they abhorred slavery. Your Southern Aristocracy taught you well. That was an aristocracy extended from Old England." Free Soil, Free Labor, and Free Men" by Eric Foner is a book worth reading that explores the actual difference between North and South. Alex De Tocqueville, a French observer prior to the war observed the difference. In the South, wealth was confined mainly to large plantations with spandd of unsettled territory in between often occupied by very poor settlers. The North was full of small yet productive farms and villages where private enterprise flourished. That is exactly why William Tecumseh Sherman wrote a letter to his friends in the South warning them......if this comes to war, you may do well at first, but once the North Mobilizes it will be a War you cannot win.
I have read the reasons for concession of several southern states. The right to own slaves was dominant among those reasons. You aren't fooling anyone.

 

the freedom to own slaves?

 

The US Army cannot invade American territory.

it was all under their legal jurisdiction.

 

There is one running for the Senate now - Corey Stewart. Note how the American flag plays second fiddle to the Confederate flag. Yet trumpers worry more about ball players kneeling!