Were the laws of thermodynamics broken on 9/11 in addition to the laws of physics?

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  1. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    So make one.

    Oh yeah. You tried. Washers, wooden dowels, and paper loop supports to try and show the correct physics that SHOULD have taken place with the towers.

    That went well...
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Because that would reveal formally how false the official narrative is.
     
  3. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    You mean like the models and white papers the truth movement has made showing how much and where demolition charges were placed to match what was seen in the collapses? Or how nukes did it?
     
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    Come now, these visuals are priceless classics...

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    They have no connection to reality, but they've given years of lulz....
     
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    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:
     
  6. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well. I made it to about the third paragraph before I call bullshit.

    The claim that steel structural engineering is based on a 5x safety factor is bullshit.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As a licensed architect, and after have evaluating that A/E for 911 truth site, I can tell you its lying through its teeth. The overwhelming majority of "engineers" on that site are not positioned to speak to structural failure. They even go so far as to list "facility engineers" which are really maintenance people with no formal education in any form of structural design and analysis as "engineers"

    What you found was a few crazies out of an industry with a half million professionals.
     
  8. Bob0627

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    The truth of the matter is that you decided it was "bullshit" BEFORE you read the first word.

    It's incredible how many anonymous posters claim they're architects or engineers or other professionals there are in this forum who defend the OCT and criticize and denigrate REAL architects and engineers who disagree with the OCT. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of members of AE911T have not written one single technical paper, they merely signed a petition for a "new" investigation into 9/11. Those who have written technical peer reviewed papers though are in fact verifiable professionals. Another fact is that you could probably count on one hand the number of verifiable relevant professionals out of "a half million" who have actually written anything in opposition to those who have written these aforementioned technical papers. The rest who defend the OCT on a regular basis are mostly anonymous posters and self-professed equally anonymous "debunkers". And those you insult as "a few crazies" are merely those who demand a new investigation into 9/11 because they know full well as any fool who understands the basic laws of physics would figure out that the official technical 9/11 claims published by NIST are a massive scam that contradict the laws of physics and are based in phony and secret data that do not follow any universally accepted investigative protocols, not even NIST's own published investigative protocols.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol

    Ok whatever.

    I dont have to prove anything to you. It's easy to keep going with insane conspiracy theories when you simply create new conspiracies when people say something that doesnt align with your theory.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Correct and I wouldn’t give a rat’s ass about your alleged “expertise” anyway even if it was real. Your stated position via your posts says everything I need to know about you. Show me a legitimate non-anonymous peer reviewed technical paper that you’ve written that contradicts REAL experts about their 9/11 findings and then I might take you seriously. Otherwise you’re just another typical nobody OCT defender tossing a lot of hot air pretending to know better than real experts. This section of the forum is full of your kind.
     
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    Chimney effect and the blast furnace temperatures.. yeah after all these years not one person out of the large crew necessary to demolish the Trade Centers has stepped forward.
     
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    It would have been impossible to wire explosives to bring down the building without anyone noticing.

    Impossible.
     
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    Whether you believe it’s impossible or not is irrelevant. What is relevant however is that there are over 150 documented eyewitness claims that have been entered into evidence in a legal complaint about hearing, seeing, feeling, being injured by and killed by explosions on 9/11. Some of these occurred prior to airplane impacts and at the sub-levels of the WTC towers.
     
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    It would have been impossible to wire the buildings without anyone noticing, regardless of these so-called "witnesses". It also would have taken a massive conspiracy to pull this off, and you would have us believe that not one, single person ever gave up their secret. Not to a reporter or writer, not to a spouse, not to a best friend, not to law enforcement, not to anyone, ever. That also is so incredibly improbable that it borders on the impossible.

    But, to the true believers, this is just a like a religion. Logic and facts don't make one bit of difference.
     
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    Change the word “true” to “OCT” and I agree 100%. You can also include eyewitness and expert witness testimony. And BTW they are not “so-called” witnesses they are in fact documented eyewitnesses corroborating their testimonies.
     
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    I don't doubt things were blowing up.. most anything in a pressurized container would. An aerosol can blew up in one of my wifey's car.. broke the windshield.. but I didn't blame it on nefarious actors.
     
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    Try to stick to the subject if you’re capable. No one is talking about a “pressurized container”, an “aerosol can”, your “wifey” or even “nefarious actors”. This is about at least 150 documented corroborating eyewitness claims of hearing, seeing, feeling, being injured by and/or killed by explosions at the WTC towers on 9/11. Some of these claims are at the sub-levels and/or PRIOR to any airplane impacts. Most of the claims come from first responders, including police and firefighters. You weren’t there and neither was I but ALL these eyewitnesses were. It doesn’t matter what else you may or may not believe but none of it changes any of these claims. The claims are history and courtroom EVIDENCE, not “conspiracy theory” or even “theory”. Accept it for what they are or don’t, that’s your prerogative.
     
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    Has it occurred to you that IF those 'noticing' were in on the scam, it would be quite easy to rig the buildings?

    In fact, under the cover of working on elevators, extensive work was done on the towers for months before. You won't hear that discussed by the mainstream media or Congress, but that's what happened.
     
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    That’s correct, inconvenient facts are being suppressed by the MSM, same as the destruction of WTC7 on 9/11, as with everything that might throw a monkey wrench into the OCT fairy tale. The good news is that it is being brought out into the open by 2 legal actions which are also being suppressed by the MSM.
     
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    9/11 Truthers are still a thing?

    Damn.
     
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    As long as there are 9/11 liars there will always be 9/11 truthers. It’s just one of those truths.
     
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    How many are left? The meetings at the clubhouse must be getting pretty lonely, huh?
     
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    All it takes is 1. Are you worried?
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Terrified.

    I'm hearing rumblings. It's only taken 18 years, but the tortilla is about to be blown off the whole thermite enchilada.
     
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    I take it you’re only posting here to troll then? So far nothing on topic.
     

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