One should know something about civil engineering before they claim to be an expert. Ref: http://sydney.edu.au/engineering/civil/latest/wtc_graphic.gif The towers had a core and perimeter steel structure for the vertical load bearing, trusses were used for the horizontal load bearing. The trusses had the fire retardant material. By flying an airplane into the towers, the perimeter load bearing and the trusses carrying the horizontal load bearing were immediately copromised. That transferred all the work to the remaining perimeter and core veritical bearing structure, and the fires compromised more of the upper story horizontal bearing structure. One must never forget winds as those altitudes and now without any horizontal load bearing, that force was transferred to the vertical load bearing structure. All of those conditions contributed to the collapse, some more than others. If you want to prove, create your model and demonstrate, other than that, you have only an arbitrary opinion.
My former girlfriend woke me up after a long night of fixing somebody's computer and said "what do you think about this". I looked at the TV and in three minutes after I had already heard about the first plane I saw the second hit. I immediately looked at her and said,"we're under attack". She looked at me like I had a canary sticking out of my mouth. It took a few minutes for everything to come together. But as they kept showing the replays of those planes hitting the towers and got the video in from that guy on the street with the manhole crew, it all came together for me. I have never had any doubts since, even though a bunch of nutbags have tried to distort what happened that day to confuse the gullible. Those with something to gain are the ones trying to distort what I saw with my own two eyes. They have an agenda to blame the victims, and not the perpetrators, to deflect from the reality of the Islamic Jihad against the rest of the world. This has been going on since the start of Islam. Muhammed was a war monger. Jesus was a man of peace. Who would you trust? The entire Tripolitan War was set up to draw America into the Islamic jihad. They have been in a constant state of war since the founding of Islam. They will continue this until the last one is killed.
Yet not a shred of evidence proves it was islamics. On the contrary there is ample evidence pointing to the Israelis and duel israeli politicians being behind the attacks.
No, you only come to the correct conclusion about ww2 by independant thought and research, something those brainwashed with the official jew/communist holocaust fairy tale would know nothing about.
Exactly who am i a sock puppet of margot? I am just an individual who is into politics/history.... Oh and whats up with this? Air Traffic Controller Pete Zalewski was responsible for both New York Tower crashes and also was controller for Egypt 990 crash in 1999. 911 False Flag - 72 min German w. subtitles [ame]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4092196668758946293&hl=en[/ame] From this video: "At 8:13 Pete Zalewski sees the information on his radar screen that the transponder is no longer transmitting, that the pilot of American Airlines flight 11 is no longer responding and that the flight route has been changed. Instead of immediately sounding the alarm we hear that he attempted repeatedly to contact the aircraft. From 8:13 to 8:24 a.m., this Pete Zalewski supposedly called the captain of AA11, "Hello.. please respond," as opposed to the necessity of securing the airspace he has nothing better to do than try to restore contact. No! I cannot believe that. That cannot be true. If I were the head of an air traffic control center, I would replace the person when I ascertained, that an aircraft that he was responsible for just disappeared into the World Trade Center. He was also responsible for the second aircraft, United Airlines flight 175. The most interestin thing yet, which has been reported by another air traffic controller, is that he was responsible for a third plane Egypt Airlines flight 990, two years prior, that was packed to the brim with Egyptian military officials of the highest rank. It executed a strange maneuver near the coast then sank into the Atlantic. ....." After watching this video listen to the details how the evidence established beyond reasonable doubt that EgyptAir 990 was taken over by remote control in the early hours of Oct. 31, 1999. I was interviewed by Guiliani here in 2006 but also by Tom Valentine's program where I was interviewed along with Chris Bollyn. I had no idea until seeing the above German clip that the same JEWISH air traffic controller happened to be assigned to be ATC for Egypt Air and both WTC tower planes. Listen: Charles Giuliani talking with Dick Eastman about 9-11 research "remote-control crashbombings" May 17, 2007
Add to this the news stories of the 94 Israelis at Reagan and Dulles airports, each with illegal top security passes at the time of 9-11 and each quietly deported by Attorney General Ashcroft a few months after the attack. Plenty of islamofascists amongst that lot margot....lol
Look margot, more crazy muslims... Also: Christopher Bollyn Chris Bollyn has established that there is a connection between Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Menachem Atzmon, the man who oversaw passenger screening and airport security at Boston's Logan Airport on 9/11 Olmert and Atzmon are truly very close political allies and co-defendants in old Likud crimes. " .. there is the very bizarre and suspicious Israeli link to the security of U.S. military computers that goes back to the early 1990s. (Remember the reports of Ptech and MITRE engaged in the basement of the FAA before 9/11?) ... One must also keep in mind that 9/11 was primarily a computer crime, just like the stealing of our elections. Long before 9/11, a germ was planted in the U.S. defense computer system which allowed for a "super-user" to control the network and create the miscommunications that prevented the U.S. military from defending New York and Washington on that terrible day. "As I have written earlier, the members of the YORAN family from Israel are among the key suspects, along with Michael Chertoff and others. I consider the YORANS to be high-ranking Israeli moles who infiltrated the most sensitive computer networks in the U.S. government and military - Zionest agents who facilitated the terror attacks of 9/11. "The YORAN family includes, Dr. Chaim Yoran (a.k.a. Elad Yoran), his wife Ruth Lubelski Yoran, and their three sons: Amit Y. Yoran, Dov Yoran, and Naftali Elad Yoran. "...The Yoran sons, Amit and Naftali Elad, are graduates of Westpoint. From this U.S.-based launching pad they went on to take over computer security for Dept. of Defense computer networks. For example, Forbes Magazine, in December 2001, wrote this about Amit Yoran: "Yoran, 32, earned degrees in computer science from West Point and George Washington University before joining the U.S. Air Force (?), where he took a job overseeing the emergency response team at the Defense Information Systems Agency ( ??). DSIA runs all military networks (!!!)." Chamish: "Menachem Atzmon ... was Likud Treasurer along with Olmert in the late 80s," I answered. Then he playfully announced, "Did you know he was personally responsible for security at Logan and Newark Airports on 9/11?"
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mooslims didnt do 9/11 ,jews did it, they had the means,motives the power, the logistics and personell. They profitted monaterily wise out of it.
It doesnt matter how the towers fell down, those arguments are merely spoken by the infiltraitors in the truther movement to move the discussion away from who was actually behind the attacks. Find the perpetraitors behind the attacks first then worry about the semantics of how the towers actually fell.
Fires + plus structural damage = Buckling of critical interior column and cascading collapse, according to NIST.
Please, cite the commissioners who questioned the reliability of the NIST's investigation. Also, show us proof that they were instructed not to test for explosives. Go ahead, I'll wait.
911 NIST Caught Lying Again About WTC7 Part 1 http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&s...uICYfDhPQ&sig2=4nvFXdRKMS6_oNWiTjdMqw&cad=rja
NIST's Role in 9/11 Cover-up Established to be a pillar of scientific accuracy, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has prostituted itself in the case of its role in helping the dark elements of the U.S. Government to cover their tracks of culpability in the 9/11 tragedy. Compiled by Sterling D. Allan, Son of NIST atomic clock physicistNIST's Role in 9/11 Cover-up http://www.patriotsaints.com/News/911/Conspiracy/NIST_911_Cover-Up/
The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites (7-02-0 - Some argue that NIST failed to look for evidence of explosives simply because they were ignorant of such matters. This is clearly not the case as Kevin Ryan shows. Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues? NIST did not test for the residue of these compounds in the steel. -- NIST Responses to FAQs, August 2006 http://www.patriotsaints.com/News/911/Conspiracy/NIST_911_Cover-Up/ John Gross says: "First of all, let's go back to your basic premise that there was a pool of molten steel. I know of absolutely nobody, no eyewitnesses who said so, nobody who's produced it." Molten metal, more than a month after the attack, is probably the most obvious smoking gun of pre-planted explosives of demolition charges. Thermite or thermate continue to react with metal, and that is why there was molten metal so long afterward. That John Gross would make such a blatant lie about something so well-proven, shows the degree to which NIST is going in covering up this crime.
Empty appeals to physics and calculus will do you no good here, truther. The foremost experts in physics and engineering have already thoroughly debunked every last retarded truther claim. The case is closed. All we have left are the deluded ramblings of a bunch of misanthropes.
WTC 7 -- Classic Controlled Demolition WTC7: NIST Admits Freefall, But . . . In this three-part series, physicist David Chandler, on behalf of Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth, documents the "dry labbing" done by NIST regarding World Trade Center building 7, in which measurements are falsified to support a pre-determined outcome. Here's a synopsis of the data, followed by the video presentation by David Chandler. http://www.patriotsaints.com/News/911/Conspiracy/NIST_911_Cover-Up/ ============= Here are some resources contradicting the "official report" supported by the NIST report, that WTC7 came down by fire alone. * 9/11 Coincidences (Part Seven) - [from the description:] WTC leaseholder Larry Silverstein said to the fire department commander "the smartest thing to do is pull it." Firefighters withdrawing from the area stated the building was going to "blow up". The roof of WTC 7 visibly crumbled and the building collapsed perfectly into its footprint. Molten steel and partially evaporated steel members were found in the debris. There can be only one conclusion as to what happened to WTC 7 - it was demolished. Silverstein Properties made billions from the insurance policies he set up on the WTC complex just a few weeks before 9/11. He specifically took out insurance policies to cover terrorist attacks, and got double his policy because of the two planes that hit the neighboring building. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ9BofDUXv0"]9/11 Coincidences (7/19) - YouTube[/ame]
NIST Whistleblowers Dr. James Quintiere, Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division calls for an independent investigation: "Let's look at real alternatives that might have been the cause of the collapse of the World Trade Towers." See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt6YOwZS4Zs#t=4m51s (These YouTube urls point to the exact time stamp of relevance.) Kevin Ryan of NIST was fired because he pointed out that NIST fudged in their usage of the Underwriter Lab tests of the modeling, which had concluded that "the buildings should have easily withstood the thermal stress caused by..burning jet fuel [and office materials]." See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt6YOwZS4Zs#t=5m08s