What Alito Gets Wrong About the History of Abortion in America

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  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Sure you are and it is disgusting.
     
  2. Jack Hays

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    Nothing wrong with that when differences can't be reconciled.
     
  3. Bullseye

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    And YOO, of course, are dispassionate, knowledgeable and speaking only from pure logic? So, as I understand it the major problem is Alito made a sweeping generalization for only the past 150 years or so. I notice your quote is based on the draft opinion - was the working the same in the final version? and of course the ultimate question: What difference does it make.
    BTW: the article is labeled an "OPINION" Alito's was an official SCOTUS document.
     
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  4. Jack Hays

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    So are you claiming human rights are dependent on capabilities? Do you advocate euthanasia of quadriplegics?
     
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    if they cannot yet exist outside of the womb they are not yet fully human other than in theoretically possible to become, yet the women are already fully functioning...
    a person must sign a realease consent to enable harvesting of their organs to save lives, so the dead corpse has more "rights" to its body than a live women does
     
  6. Jack Hays

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    Answer the question: Do you advocate euthanasia of quadriplegics?
     
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    no, the mind still functions very normally
     
  8. Jack Hays

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    The mind of a fetus functions normally.
     
  9. bobobrazil

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    yes normal for a fetus, but then why dont we liberate them from the body of the mother they are imprisoned in then? by the way i have a friend born 3 months premature in 1976 smallest baby at that time from that hospital, and she is now experiencing many health problems from being so premature july 4th 1976 a REAL yankee doodle dandy she is lol
     
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    Gestation is not imprisonment.
     
  11. bobobrazil

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    well thats YOUR opinion, i bet a good layer could conjure up a word salad and say it is lol...these all word games based on opinions..the fetus CANNOT exist outside the body as a human being till it reaches a certain age, and science is making it possible for younger and younger
    people" to begin their outside the womb life in an incubator at least
     
  12. Jack Hays

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    I'm not sure you understand my point. I'm pro-choice, but I don't think this issue can be compromised, so deferring it to the states is the best solution.
     
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    Is that the ONLY way to remove it?
     
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    well excuse me than, its just that ive lately been looking into the reasoning behind allowing slavery, and when i hear "states rights" it strikes a bad nerve
     
  15. Cybred

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    You made the comparison to slavery, not me.
     
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    how did you miss the point so badly? Tell me it’s on purpose. The alternative is really bad news for you
     
  17. Cybred

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    Your the one that thinks if you let someone to stick their hand up your butt you have the right to chop it off because now it’s inside you
     
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    More KJP: No, we're not going to set up abortion tents at national parks

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    "Biden and Kamala Harris had almost two months to lay out a strategy for responding to a Supreme Court decision that vacated Roe, and yet Harris made it sound last night as though she and Biden just started their own spitballing process:"

    So, no abortion tents in National Parks.
     
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    I would, and the arm with it.:p
    What are you calling "normal"?
     
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    No I did not. You did and it is disgusting.
     
  21. Cybred

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    Post it.
     
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    That is the base of the entire issue. You believe that. Others believe the opposite.
     
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    Your reading comprehension is as bad as your understanding of how to use “your” and “you’re”.
     
  24. Jack Hays

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    Not for me to say. Another poster claimed the "normal" standard.
     
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    The article is an opinion piece from a professor who gets hooked up with journalists because she comes from an "underrepresented group..." Whatever that means. The conclusions are broad and oversampled while ignoring the specifics. For example, there's a strong focus on quickening, yet she ignores that in most states abortion was illegal pre-quickening at the time the 14th amendment was ratified as well as after ratification. Therefore, the Fourteenth Amendment cannot be used to justify a federal right to abortion because it didn't do so. It's a garbage argument designed to confuse people into believing propaganda because the factual history negates their premise. I'd recommend researching the facts rather than trusting all these opinion pieces just because they tell us what we want to hear.
     

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