What alternative is so horrific that women would choose this?

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget the pauper's choice: abstinence on fertile days.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And even in that case she still had the right not to get pregnant, it's just someone else decided not to respect that right, and now they are going to get punished for it. (After all, isn't that what a right is?)
     
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  3. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    OK ANSWER the OFT ASKED BUT NEVER ANSWERED QUESTION THAT ANTI-CHOICERS DUCK:


    If the fetus does not belong to the woman it's in WHOSE IS IT?


    If it isn't "it's mother's body"" then all the more reason she can have it removed.

    NO one is obligated to sustain the life of anyone else.....YOU don't have to so why should pregnant women??????????????


    If it isn't HER body then she should be able to take it out and let it grow n it's own....:)





    I never said it's a criteria for anything... YOU didn't ANSWER THE QUESTIONS :) :) Why not???
     
  4. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    To be honest your posts look like they're tight by schizophrenic person, so I don't know which question I didn't answer.
     
  5. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    OK ANSWER the OFT ASKED BUT NEVER ANSWERED QUESTION THAT ANTI-CHOICERS DUCK:


    If the fetus does not belong to the woman it's in WHOSE IS IT?


    If it isn't "it's mother's body"" then all the more reason she can have it removed.

    NO one is obligated to sustain the life of anyone else.....YOU don't have to so why should pregnant women??????????????


    If it isn't HER body then she should be able to take it out and let it grow n it's own....:)







    I never said it's a criteria for anything... YOU didn't ANSWER THE QUESTIONS :) :) Why not???





    You didn't answer any of them...must be too busy slinging insults....which seems to be all you have...




    BTW , what does ""tight by schizophrenic person"" mean?




    HERE are the questions you didn't answer:



    If the fetus does not belong to the woman it's in WHOSE IS IT?


    If it isn't "it's mother's body"" then all the more reason she can have it removed.

    NO one is obligated to sustain the life of anyone else.....YOU don't have to so why should pregnant women????
     
  6. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    What ARE you going on about?
     
  7. Polydectes

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    a fetus is a human life it does not belong to anyone.

    I have already answered that question.


    because the only way she can avoid doing it this by murdering the fetus.


    There I answered both your questions, when I already answered you just didn't like the answer.
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    OK ANSWER the OFT ASKED BUT NEVER ANSWERED QUESTION THAT ANTI-CHOICERS DUCK:


    If the fetus does not belong to the woman it's in WHOSE IS IT?




    So if it doesn't belong to the woman then she has every right to get rid of it....it isn't hers according to you.

    Why should she sustain the life of something she doesn't own?




    NO one is obligated to use their body to sustain someone else.

    You don't have to give anyone a kidney or blood or any part of your body to sustain the life of another.

    WHY do you think women should?

    Gestating a fetus causes women harm, they have a right to self defense . If the only way to stop the harm is to kill the attacker then she has that right....the SAME right everyone else has.



    I don't like wrong answers.


    Have you called the cops about all those "murders" yet? There's a question you haven't answered :)
     
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    Ted Bundy would love to argue that the woman has the right to kill her own child.
     
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    If you don't like my answers and think they're wrong then we agree to disagree. I don't think you're right.
     
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    As much harm as he protests hits the mom, one might think women globally would agree with him.

    But if there is actual harm, women globally know a way to not be harmed. They do not cure pregnancy, they evade it like it will actually harm them. So why do women deliberately harm their own body and seek the butchers tools to take the life of their own child?

    If slicing and dicing her child was her right, why did it take the decision of Roe V. Wade to make it show up? Why did Justices of a court need to enforce a so called right? A right is self evident. Such as free speech. We do not need more laws to show speech is a right.

    Baby killing is what barbarians did.
     
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    You don't think I 'm right but can't say why?

    Why can't you answer my questions:

    So if it doesn't belong to the woman then she has every right to get rid of it....it isn't hers according to you.

    Why should she sustain the life of something she doesn't own?








    NO one is obligated to use their body to sustain someone else.

    You don't have to give anyone a kidney or blood or any part of your body to sustain the life of another.

    WHY do you think women should?


    Gestating a fetus causes women harm, they have a right to self defense . If the only way to stop the harm is to kill the attacker then she has that right....the SAME right everyone else has.
     
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    I can say why murder is wrong. I consider slaying a baby in the womb murder.
     
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    There were other issues besides those "murders" you didn't report to the police.


    So if it doesn't belong to the woman then she has every right to get rid of it....it isn't hers according to you.

    Why should she sustain the life of something she doesn't own?








    NO one is obligated to use their body to sustain someone else.

    You don't have to give anyone a kidney or blood or any part of your body to sustain the life of another.

    WHY do you think women should?
     
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    I view slaying a baby in the womb as murder. Why do I think women should go out of their way to murder their babies in the womb? Because murder is wrong.

    That answers every question you ask.

    If you disagree with my views on it being murder, that is where we fundamentally disagree. You aren't going to convince me that it's not. We are at an impasse.
     
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    Ya, but I'm right …..have you seen women arrested for murder for having a legal abortion? (another question you won't answer) Guess it's not murder then ….:)
     
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    No you're not. Our justice system doesn't view it as murder. I don't believe that our justice system is the moral authority.

    I still absolutely view it as murder. you can tell me I'm wrong you can think that I'm wrong but you can't make me wrong.
     
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    Several states classify it as feticide (as opposed to homicide).
     
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    :) The justice system may not be the "moral" authority but it IS the authority.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Ya, but I'm right …..have you seen women arrested for murder for having a legal abortion? (another question you won't answer) Guess it's not murder then ….:)


    Which states classify legal abortion as feticide?
     
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    Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Louisiana.

    (But the state courts may not be enforcing it because of federal court precedent)
     
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    I have higher standards than the bare minimum. I'm not the least bit sorry for that.
     
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    Did you know they're intentionally killing babies in the womb just so they won't be legally required to resuscitate when the baby comes out?

    That's both true in cases where the baby would not be able to survive because it's too premature, and in cases where the baby might have a chance of survival.
    All the more reason to make sure it's dead before it comes out because they don't want to have to bother giving it medical care trying to attempt to save its life.

    Maybe they somehow feel better about themselves if they know it's dead when it comes out.
     
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    I'm going to give you a link to a video it's 42 minutes long you should watch it this is from a person who worked for planned Parenthood who was the director. And the absolutely horrifying things she says about that organization and abortion and general made me physically ill. It seems like planned Parenthood as more of a cult then a service provider. You just have to watch it.



    Some highlights, occasionally they will remove a fetus before it's dead and it will scream add a walk in the room and sometimes even have to restrain the mother while they let it die.
     
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    Abortion is legal in all those states
     

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