Again and again you read from these Brexiteers that only a No Deal is a real Brexit and everything else is fraud. And all the fact-based counter-arguments are referred to as "frightening," "nonsense," "EU propaganda," "the will of the evil upper class," and whatever. Not to forget that all the discussions about this, again and again, show that the Brexiteers have no idea of the EU in the majority and out of this catastrophic ignorance, the most idiotic assertions and allegations (lies) towards Brussels ... alternatively Germany, sometimes France ... do it. I do not want to deal with the lies and idiotic claims again, but just list a few, irrefutable facts, what a No Dela Brexit means ... for UK means ... because what he means for the EU, interested not the Brexit clowns anyway. # 01 - British pound and house prices in free fall The Bank of England anticipates a British pound crash in a Brexit deal. It would lose around 25 percent in value. The real estate market would be hit hard, too. The central bankers assume a case of house prices in the real estate business by 30 per cent. Note: Granted ... one can also rate this positively, e.g. because with a weak GBP, exports are supposedly easier! But it also means a loss of value in the UK ... not just land and buildings, in general! # 02 - British exports are breaking Even though the US ranks first as a country with around 13 to 14%, a total of around 40% of all exports go from the UK to various member states of the EU (and here alone 11% to Germany). In a no-deal, any article entering the EU from the UK will automatically be subject to customs duties (WTO-compliant tariffs). If you take cars as an example, every car built in the UK will be subject to a 10% tariff on export to the EU for the buyer in the EU! Let's take the "Mini", which is part of the BMW Group and the Mini Countryman, which is produced in Austria, except for some models produced by "Nedcars" in the Netherlands, all others (3/4) Made exclusively in England at the Oxford plant. In a "no deal" Brexit, any Mini that goes from Oxford to the EU for sale to end customers at car dealers would get 10% duty. Why should the BMW accept and not just close the Wwrk and move the production completely to Austria and / or the Netherlands / within the EU internal market? That would cost many jobs in the UK ... and that's just one example of all the many automotive manufacturers and their suppliers. And then take all the other branches and areas which are effected with their exports into the EU ... and the number of UK jobs in danger is high! # 03 - Panic buying and fight for storage space British companies have been hoarding imported goods for weeks that they urgently need for their production. According to all financial institutions in the UK, there are "hamster buying as after a storm warning". In the meantime, however, hardly any storage space can be found in warehouses in Great Britain because supermarkets and pharmaceutical companies are also preparing for supply bottlenecks and buying up food and medicines. By the way ... and vice versa, that's how it starts with exports! Many British companies have mass shipped goods to the EU and rented warehouses to have goods in the EU before customs duties! Both are heavy investments for the British companies, because stored goods are death inventory! # 04 - Aircraft on the ground In a no-deal Brexit, many airlines would lose their licenses to fly to and from the UK. For this reason, the British government wants to temporarily issue special permits to European airlines, provided British airlines also receive them from the EU. For the EU Commission, aviation is also one of the "priority areas" for emergency measures. This is just one of many things where there has to be a deal ... but we want to have a "no deal" as Brexit, eh? Sorry ... but you No Deal Brexit guys are clueless clowns, as you can see on this example alone! # 05 - Goods with special permission according to international law, agreements, WTO rules etc. There are many goods whose trade within the EU single market are free and approved, that is easily possible ... but not outside! With a "no deal" Brexit there is no agreement in this respect and thus, after each relevant legal situation, trade between the EU and the UK ... but also vice versa between the UK and the EU is prohibited! This applies, for example, all medications ... for example, insulin in diabetic patients. UK buys 90% of the needed insulin from the EU, in a no deal this trade is prohibited ... both by the EU as an exporter, and in the UK as an importer under UK law! And the next example, where a deal is required ... but we hardcore Brexiteers absolutely and basically want "no deal", so not here too! Explain that to British diabetis patients! # 06 - In a "No Deal" Brexit British driving licenses lose their validity ... and vice versa, of course too! Being a member of the EU single market means too that, like all other citizens from other EU member states, British people can drive with their national driving license within the EU. With Brexit and a "no deal" this agreement is over and the British need an international driver's license ... as well as vice versa all citizens from the EU then in the UK. Also, changes in the insurance coverage for cars then exist, because each other must be accompanied by an internationally valid certificate for an existing insurance! May be a trifle and more of a bureaucracy for the citizens, but that will annoy all citizens! Thank you "No Deal" clowns!
You forget Donald Trump being the president and supporting Brexit and offering UK a trade deal with the US post Brexit if the UK leaves the EU completely. It's 2019, there isn't no Obama 'back of queue Britain' in the White House, we need to Brexit now while Trump 'Brexit Plus Plus Plus' is in the White House. Remember how the USSR was
https://www.politico.eu/article/fea...y-trump-rees-mogg-eu-european-council-summit/ The UK should be able to disrupt the EU if it's stuck in the EU. After all, the UK being told it can't speak up or do what it has to defeats the point of being at the table, and let's be clear, the EU is to blame for not allowing the UK to cherry pick.
Do you get paid for this..... I mean without wishing to make the obvious point that this forum is chokka with this sort of wibble.... do you get paid by the verb... noun... are you on mind ogling substances? You do realise that you don’t have to start a new thread with every thought process that stirs your neural network..... you can just add this to the legion of other dull threads that exist here!!! Try looking at the forum threads and see if this amazing post can fit in somewhere else equally amazing!! Or get a life and go outside and breathe in fresh air and listen to the birds and watch the spring leaves bud on the trees.... who knows it may be better than the pay you get for this shyte... just a thought
Unless they can link a source, give us something to work of off, close thread? I see no news articles linked in the OP, rather just a ton of 'why the UK will fail because I haven't accepted there's life beyond the EU/EU forever'. Also, it appears to me that @Mandelus is just Anti UK, Anti Trump, Anti anything that suggests the EU isn't everything.
No ... the next lie: I am an anti - Lies of Brexit Clowns - Ignorance of Brexit clowns - Idiotic claims by Brexit Clowns - Outrage by Brexit Clowns ... - All the same in principle, also with Trump always, simply because the guy is proven to be human scum! - Hypocrisy, ignorance and arrogance with not only a few Americans who believe they can tell the world what's right and what's wrong, because only the US has this right in the world ... along with a bunch of things that go with it! - Outrageous insults against my country because, of course, even 74 years after the end of World War II and the Nazis, we just have to shut up and do what others say ... and have no conflicting interests! These times are over and who still believes or demands that Germany should act as before, that is laughed at ... as for example with the topic North Stream!
Counter question ... and why don't you ask this same question to these Pro Brexoit Clowns who opdend the same way new Threads etc.? If I do ... bad boy ... if the side you follow does .... silence about and accepted! Examples? Look on Cerberus! Threads
I'm anti EU smugness, EU rudeness, and EU stupidity. EU smugness, to treat US as hostile. EU rudeness, to treat UK like it's a state of the EU and not a country. EU stupidity, to not impose sanctions on Germany for breaking with the ECB's advise to Germany not to break Article 124 of the Lisbon Treaty when it bought Greek Debt and imposed onto Greece. Then you've got clowns in the EU who want a European Army, an anthem, a flag. I'm anti Schengen lies of borderless trade and no protectionism being a good thing. Why does the EU view nation states as an evil thing? All this forced integration to serve Germany means nothing to me and why do people get testy if you don't fly the EU flag? Why can't these people stop wishing to make EU another USA when if they want to be USA so much, they should just become American because that's what they really want, to not be from some tiny ass country. They're self hating people wishing they were American. It's not a country, there is no such thing as EU citizenship, and it's cheating and regulating to bring down a great friend called the USA. When it comes to Trump, your best retorts are based on personal opinions and your ideas for a way to counter it seem rude, stupid, and biased for biased sake for a continent full of small countries just to make them selves feel big; it's all about ego in the EU when really, all this EU is to make you feel bigger than you really are. Don't even get me started on EU democracy (or lack thereof).
*Article 125 of Lisbon Treaty (not Article 124) was broken when Germany bailed out Greece, and what are the EU doing about it? Nothing; Because they're stupid. Bending rules, building castles on sand, cheating and manipulating and being unfriendly to our friends in America. All so these small countries can feel big about themselves playing Beethoven having their flag over EU countries like it was some empire. That's stupid and wishing it was something it's not. Take Belgium, a country so small it bets on cows in fields and where they'd defecate in a game called '**** Me Rich' when translated into English. These people's countries are so boring, they'd rather pretend Europe is one instead.
To be honest mate I think its more of a question for Moderators - its just that there are a myriad of brexit threads and all these threads end up going over the same ground with the same people making the same comments and to be honest its just boring. Unfortunately, and I apologise to you for my comment, its just that this was the tipping point for me in that this just encapsulated everything that is already out there.
Lol ... read again this article and then educate yourself better about the reasons in matter of Greece! Jesus ... seriously: Have you any knowledge at all in case of EU? Until now comes from you nothing, but reallynothing about the EU what is true! Only bullshit! Because US acts hostile towards the EU ... look on these idiotic and unreasoned punitative tariffs as one of many examples! The EU is not a state, it is a community. But this community has unanimously decided to handle the internal market like that of a state in all matters ... and that means only the central institution is allowed to trade with others, as in a state. You stupid Brits did not have to go along, but you said yes! Germany never broke Article 124 and also not 125 ... next lie! Explain me, whjy they have broken please! In parts, the criticism is justified, as far as possible. Check out what nationalism is and what it causes. Anyway ... what's the alternative to the EU to make it work as well as it does? There are no ... just the idiotic claims that come from the UK and are proclaimed by other right-wing idiots! It's not a country, there is no such thing as EU citizenship, and it's cheating and regulating to bring down a great friend called the USA. Very interesting ... apart from the fact that there are countless facts that justify my personal hatred of Trump ... Exactly because of such idiots as he is genail, that there is the EU to stop these despots and arrogant idiots. And the EU is just as democratic as the UK ... but since you have no idea about the EU and prefer to make in your hate the stupidest allegations and lies as a propaganda clown of the Brexiteers ... Let's take Schengen: is the UK part of the Schengen Agreement? No. So what do you care about what the others all want together? Take the EU Freedom of Movement: If you find the evil, why did not you say no like the Schengen Agreement? No, you did not want to, because you wanted to have freedom of movement in all the other 27 countries, but conversely, you alone decide who gets them. Tell me, is there still brain in your mind with you British, or why do you think such an impudence to get? Let's just take these evil Eastern Europeans, who usually do the lousy jobs with you, who do not want to make Britons ... because lousy pays and enough better paid alternatives for Britons! No ... all evil Jobklauer of course ... just stupid and idiotic!
