What are your views on abortion?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Daggdag, Oct 19, 2020.

?

Which best describes your view on abortion

  1. A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.

    41 vote(s)
    47.7%
  2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester

    16 vote(s)
    18.6%
  3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.

    24 vote(s)
    27.9%
  4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  1. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    8,944
    Likes Received:
    3,018
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When someone says "sex is fun" is pretty darn clear it implies the sex is consensual. Otherwise they would say "rape is fun".
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  2. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    8,944
    Likes Received:
    3,018
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    By what standard?

    It is certainly immoral reasons to have an abortion, but there are also immoral reasons to give birth.

    Abortion is a moral right.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  3. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I agree, but I was using @FoxHastings' standard against them. When I said:
    They replied:
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2021
  4. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,652
    Likes Received:
    27,185
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Donald Trump's mother ought to have had one.
     
  5. Aquarius

    Aquarius Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    914
    Likes Received:
    286
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Then our country would be destroyed. He was the one glimmering hope for our nation.
     
  6. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2014
    Messages:
    56,891
    Likes Received:
    21,025
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hey, give me all the excuses of why he didn't do a damn thing about abortion :) :) :)
     
  7. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    8,944
    Likes Received:
    3,018
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Hahahahahahahahahaha.
     
  8. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113

    I am sure Nazis thought they were "moral" .
     
  9. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2014
    Messages:
    56,891
    Likes Received:
    21,025
    Trophy Points:
    113

    That is why laws are NOT based on "morals"..... they vary widely from person to person.

    Thank you. :)
     
  10. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Where did I mention laws? You seem very confused. I wonder why?
     
  11. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2014
    Messages:
    56,891
    Likes Received:
    21,025
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That is why laws are NOT based on "morals"..... they vary widely from person to person.

    Thank you. :)



    I never said you mentioned laws You seem very confused. I don't have to wonder why....;)
     
  12. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Save the personal insults. Where did I mention laws?
     
  13. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    8,944
    Likes Received:
    3,018
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Cringe, bro. Cringe.
     
  14. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2014
    Messages:
    56,891
    Likes Received:
    21,025
    Trophy Points:
    113
    FoxHastings said:
    I never said you mentioned laws You seem very confused. I don't have to wonder why....;)



    What "personal insult " was that? I used your words exactly :)


    FoxHastings said:
    I never said you mentioned laws You seem very confused. I don't have to wonder why....;)
     
  15. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nah, you used your own words. Stop being coy.
     
  16. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    A ban on elective abortion in the government controlled health system has nothing to do with being "big government."
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2021
  17. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Messages:
    34,682
    Likes Received:
    11,249
    Trophy Points:
    113
    When two people have sex and are planning on getting an abortion if they fall pregnant, the fetus is not consenting to that.

    The act of procreation and abortion are connected. Women do not just fall pregnant out of nowhere.

    Potentiality matters. Even though the fetus does not exist yet, I would argue it still has the rights to consent.
     
  18. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    8,944
    Likes Received:
    3,018
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    In what world is that ever happening? :laughing:


    Do you really think most people are having sex solely for procreation?

    It is using her body and is completely dependent on it for its survival. In doing so, it imposes severe health risks on the woman and lots and lots of paim. The consent for it to use her body must come from the woman. Anything else is a perversion of consent.
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2021
    FoxHastings likes this.
  19. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What's wrong with bringing abortion to the forefront?
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2021
  20. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    63,955
    Likes Received:
    13,550
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Abortion is a losing political issue for Red --
     
  21. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Well Trump won didn't he?
     
  22. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2014
    Messages:
    56,891
    Likes Received:
    21,025
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How does something that doesn't exist have any rights ??!!

    You want something that doesn't exist to have more rights than the EXISTING woman it's in ????
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2021
  23. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    8,944
    Likes Received:
    3,018
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, he lost. It is 2021, not 2016.
     
  24. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm pretty sure it was in relation to the 2016 campaign.
     
  25. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    59,863
    Likes Received:
    16,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think people wouldn't object to efforts made to lower the abortion rate.

    BUT, that is NOT what the anti-abortion forces are focusing on.

    They are focusing on laws against women. And, they are assuming that there IS NO OTHER WAY.

    That direction is both false and unconscionable.
     
    FoxHastings likes this.

Share This Page