Well first of all, elective abortion has NOTHING to do with healthcare. Second of all, if elective abortion is banned, how the hell would that be ME making a "decision" for women?
Oh, so when you said that you "see NO way of supporting that", you meant that you cannot see how the Texas law supports preventing innocent life from being terminated? You said that "vigilantes ARE stalking women." Do you stand by that claim? Sure, but this is not an argument against banning elective abortion. Women can do whatever they want to their own bodies. But abortion has nothing to do with a women doing something to her own body. She has no control over what happens during an abortion. It has NOTHING to do with autonomy.
Who the hell are you to say that every woman throughout history has had their life DESTROYED because they haven't been able to have an abortion? What an OUTRAGEOUS claim, and one which would be rejected by most pro-choice people I would imagine! You're just being insanely melodramatic! The claim was that "vigilantes ARE stalking women." Because they are illegitimate when applied to born kids. Women cannot kill their born kids because they're took expensive to keep or to make life easier. You're the first to say something in response to seeing my avatar!
No, women would not be the TARGET of a ban on the abortion procedure - it is the ABORTIONISTS who would be targeted. And anyway, according to many on the left, MEN can get pregnancy too!
Well no, abortion has nothing to do with my body my choice. Just like receiving any medical treatment has nothing to do with my body my choice.
Who in this thread is talking about women going to jail or being executed? Damn, I screwed that up! Allow me to rephrase: whatever Canada does to reduce the abortion rate, other countries with a higher abortion rate should perhaps consider it. Because they are illegitimate when applied to born kids. Women cannot kill their born kids because they're took expensive to keep or to make life easier.
Uh, why do Anti-Choicers want abortion banned? Because they claim it's MURDER....so if a woman commits MURDER shouldn't she be imprisoned or executed like the other murderers ??? YUP, they have no laws against abortion. BUT we were NOT discussing BORN kids, were were discussing abortion. BUT we were NOT discussing BORN kids, were were discussing abortion.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Should've known you couldn't answer to : OMGAWD...really? You really support discrimination and rights based on gender? Specific laws aimed at women.....and you can't see that as wrong???? OMYGAWD... Now you're being disingenuous ...anyone who would deny anti-abortion laws aren't aimed a those who get abortions seems to be joking...
This is just plain ridiculous. Pregnancy includes all sorts of health risks. It can also be a serious mental health risk. Are you seriously suggesting that making abortion a crime isn't a demand on women?
This is just you putting statements into context of your own manufacture. BTW, that is a form of lying. Surely you don't intent that. Of course I do. It demonstrates two specific facts: - it shows that abortion can be reduced even when abortion laws are TOTALLY ELIMINATED, and when abortions are actually paid for by the government! - it shows that those who promote laws against women are actually more motivated by the political issue than they are about actually reducing abortions'. NOBODY interested in reducing abortions would ignore what Canada has achieved. You really need to read up on procreation before you comment on this topic. You really do have some gigantic holes in your understanding of that subject.
So then what did you mean by you "see NO way of supporting that?" Okay, so then support that claim that it's currently happening. I have a feeling that if you could support that claim, you would have already done so. Sure, but this doesn't mean that if abortion laws were introduced, and State funding was cut, that abortions would increase. Are you aware of a public policy in Canada which was aimed at reducing abortion? Why do you mention procreation?
You didn't answer the question: Well first of all, elective abortion has NOTHING to do with healthcare. Second of all, if elective abortion is banned, how the hell would that be ME making a "decision" for women? And yes I know that pregnancy includes all sorts of health risks - that's why I am not against abortion in order to save the woman's life. Why the hell do you think that I am specifying ELECTIVE abortion?
Okay, so NOBODY in this thread is talking about women going to jail or being executed. There's no evidence that this has reduced the abortion rate. If you know of any evidence, then please do share. I won't be expecting anything though! If it's an illegitimate reason to kill a BORN kid for economic reasons or because life is easier without a kid, then it's an illegitimate reason to kill an UNBORN kid.
Testicles, tissue, tumors anything you want to try and pass off as the same as the fetus do not grow if nourished into a full grown human. To not respect what was created and what is, is either purposefully or woefully ignorant.
Uh, NO, that won't work...see for an abortionist to do anything they need a pregnant woman who wants an abortion.... Can't say a hitman committed murder but NOT the person who hired them...
FoxHastings said: ↑ Uh, why do Anti-Choicers want abortion banned? Because they claim it's MURDER....so if a woman commits MURDER shouldn't she be imprisoned or executed like the other murderers ??? LOL, whatsa matter? Don't like the idea that ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES and banning abortion will result in women being jailed and executed for MURDER ????? Show me that laws against women having abortions lowers the abortion rate.. Oh boy....after all this time I see you still don't know there is a Big Difference between born and unborn....
Without the aid of a human incubator, there is no life. Now, to say that situation is insurmountable is silly. We already have artificial wombs for animals, no reason to believe it can't be applied to human fetuses too. Treating human fetuses as sacrosanct without the same follow-through post-birth is hypocrisy on a grand scale.
Abortion should be discouraged but not banned. I would not tell women whether they should or should not have abortions. It should be up to the individual on what is right. The Texas government is wrong doing this and it's taking certain rights away from certain people and that is wrong.
