What crime will bring Trump down?

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    After 18 months as President, here is a summary of the problems which, in isolation, could lead to Trump's destitution:

    1- The Mueller investigation, which will show that Trump obstructed justice by asking James Comey to stop the Michael Flynn investigation.

    2- The lawsuit aganinst Trump about the emolument clause, of improperly accepting payments from foreign governments.

    Trump tried to stop it but failed (as usual).

    3- Michael Cohen's upcoming testimony to Congress.

    After 10 years with Trump, we know all the illegal payments made to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal are minor offences compared to the endless list of crimes committed by Cohen sponsored by the President.

    4- Trump and his Russian mafia money laundering business.

    An investigation will soon be launched to find out why several Russian oligarchs bought Donald Trump's properties (including one of his Florida residences) as early as 2004 to get him out of bankruptcy.

    Michael Cohen is closely linked to several transactions....

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    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    The votes aren't there to remove him , so whatever is going to happen legally will have to happen after he leaves office.
     
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    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    There could be a breaking point if Trump becomes a political liability for all Republican elected officials.
     
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    1 and 2 are not illegal, 3 has nothing to do with Trump, and 4 is flat earth material.
     
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    Well, they are all part of his Articles of Impeachment. It will be up to Republicans in the Senate. But they'll either vote to remove him on all or none. I don't think they'll vote for some and not others.

    What might really really bring Trump down, though, are going to be his sexual escapades. I mean, bring him down as far as his fortune is concerned. If Stormy cashes in (and every day looks like her stock increases), I'm fairly certain that the march of victims after that will be endless.
     
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    The GOP will likely GAIN a couple of seats in the Senate this time. His favorability numbers among the party faithful are still way up there and those are the voters that control the primaries. The only republicans that dare take him on, are retiring, dying or in Northeastern Rhino states and those rhinos are treading very very carefully. If you want to be primaried out of a republican seat in Congress, attack Trump directly. Its going to take at least two election cycles to make a large dent in Republican numbers in the Senate, and that will be too late.

    I wish it were different but as long as Trump's favorability numbers stay above 35% among the GOP likely voters, there is zero hope the Senate will turn on him in sufficient numbers.
     
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    Beat me to it...
     
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    Trump is in absolutely no danger here.

    None of this will lesson our opinion of him because you lefties have done nothing but hound him on every single thing since day 1.

    We've heard so many horror stories that nothing will shock us about him at this point. Any republican that votes to impeach him will see me actively campaigning to remove them from office.
     
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    Bill Clinton's impeachment was triggered for much less than that.
     
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    I am stunned that some think Stormy Daniels is even an issue. Hope must spring eternal in the alt-leftie mind.
     
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    That's because you don't understand the big picture.
     
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    For Trump to be "brought down", 18-20 GOP Senators must vote for removal -- assuming he is impeached.
    The possibly of this happening is infinitely close to 0%
     
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    No matter how serious the crime?
     
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    Nothing that comes from the current investigation will result in his removal from office.
    It is possible that after the Dems impeach and then fail to remove him from office, he could then do something that -does- get him removed, but that's not the issue at hand.
     
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    None of those, but it will be related to beating the unbeatable democratic candidate, hillary rodham clinton.

    IMO, that is what drove most of trump's troubles.

    Given she spent, what, almost a billion bucks, mostly from rich people who were buying something, from her, and now she cannot deliver?

    Then, people in the FBI, and greater DOJ, and intel, thought their own crimes and corruption would never come to light, once she won...

    Trump is in danger. Not from his own criminality, but from there's.

    Yes, I think this is perhaps the reality.

    Of course you can believe that DC is filled with born again christians, highly moral people of great integrity, who are not self serving, and do not serve a group of rich special interests. But Princeton evidenced this is not true, when they used congressional record over two decades to evidence that this is not true. So I cannot be so naive as to believe DC is anything but deep in corruption, pay to play, a usurping of our Republic.

    Politicians and their appointed bureaucrats have no intention of serving the people of this nation, unless you are in the upper one percent. That is our reality, and there is an overwhelming amount of hard evidence to prove this. Trump walked into this kind of system, and he is not of it. You would have a hard time in weathering this system, as an outsider. If he does survive it, it will be because he is a damned genius, and can turn their own games of corruption upon them. I doubt he is up to that challenge, although he has the right character to do it. He had to deal with crime syndicates in NYC and other places so is well aware of what he is up against.
     
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    Baloney. Trump has done Nothing that every politician in Washington hasn't done in one way or the other.
     
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    We have just learned that Allen Weisselberg, the CFO of the Trump organisation, has just turned his back and is now working with Mueller.

    Are you still sure the GOP will support Trump to the end?
     
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    Nothing that comes from the current investigation will result in his removal from office.
    It is possible that after the Dems impeach and then fail to remove him from office, he could then do something that -does- get him removed, but that's not the issue at hand.
     
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    Don't get too logical when dealing with the alt-lefties. They are gampling that impeachment will result in Trump leaving office. That ain't going to happen but if for some reason Trump leaves these malcontents will have to deal with a real conservative in the WH in the form of Mike Pence who has remained unusually quiet over his term in office. The winning just continues.
     
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    Their failure to remove Trump from office will only embolden them - and by that, I mean drive them deeper into their insanity and hatred.
     
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    How does it feel to know, in your heart of hearts, Trump will remain in office until at least January 2021?
     
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    The same way I felt on election night. Dismayed that so many of my fellow Americans could subjugate their conservative political principles, their sense of decency, and adherence to the values that have made this nation great.......for the adoration of a con man.
     
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    Just so you know...
    Like on election night, there's nothing you can do about the fact Trump will remain in office until January 2021.
    That is, all you do here is waste your time and effort.
    Enjoy!
     
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    You sure he won't resign?
     

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