What Do You Gain By Denying Climate Change?

....I don't actually get it.

I understand Big Oil and politicians, due to bribery and crony capitalism... but the common man. What do you gain from denying climate change? All of this as the strongest hurricane / drought / blizzard / tornado / winter / summer have ravaged through all parts of the globe in the last two years alone...

 

Some people think/believe the wealthy and the corporations are their friends; that their loyalty to the same will see them rewarded.

They need to WAKE THE FRACK UP and see that corporations will not act in their best interests; their motive is (and shall remain) 'profit'.

It is those who are common people, but are MISLED... who believe that their voices or concerns are heard by the hyper wealthy.

I'm primarily a capitalist, but here is how I see it:

Money is tool. Like any tool or machine (used as such), proper and beneficial use requires checks and balances (regulation). And that is what GOVERNMENT is for; government is how our concerns are voiced/heard. And the more we allow the money of 'corporations' to speak for us, the more likely we (the common folk) are likely to be thrown under the bus on economics, war and certainly CLIMATE.

Legally, corporations many be "people", but from what I've seen... they are HORRIBLE PEOPLE.

 

Some people are rightly skeptical of government funded organizations like the IPCC that give government what it wants. The fact of the matter is that there are many uncertainties that are not published by the government funded sources. Not everything is known and the current hypothesis of CAGW is not a fact but a computer model that has missed the mark the last 15 years.

 

Could you give an example of someone who is "denying climate change"

 

The common man benefits from addition resources not wasted by environmental initiatives.

Plus consumers have a choice, and who doesn't love choice.

 

Good point, the only thing that is certain is that the climate will change.

Apparently the IPCC WG2 report (should be released today) will be much more cautious about what scientists can predict, move away from mitigation, and move on to responding to climate-related risks.

 

Yes, because the world has never had strong hurricanes / droughts / blizzards / tornados / winters / summers before....

 

Anthropogenic climate change.

Give it a couple more hours and I will reference your post when the deniers arrive. Almost on que...

 

How many records have to be broken in succession for you?

 

I suspect that benefit will be rather temporary, compared to the effects we may endure if scientists are not taken seriously.

 

The severity of these natural phenomenon fluctuates from decade to decade. It's not an indicator of the problems regarding Climate Change.

For example, 2013 was considered one of the worst winters in decades, however, the effects the winter had on the marketplace were near nil.

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I do take scientist seriously, however, the solutions suggested are far to infeasible to be taken seriously.

 

WRONG!!!!

Winter absolute hampered this winter. Just look at the airline industry... 75,000 flights caused them no financial problems? The only sector that showed better than average growth as energy, due to extra heating needed, LOL.

 

Since when is the airline industry not effected by the extreme cold?

And no, it caused no financial problems as far as the data shows. Not in terms of job growth, spending, commerce, etc.

 

Yes, it did in January and February.

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.....Are you moving the goal post again?

Top 5 to Record snowfall in most areas of the country. Record number of airline flights cancelled. Your excuse is "that is normal for the airline industry."

More excuses.

 

No, it didn't. It's a dumb excuse drummed up by Market Economist and Wall Street Analyst who are disappointed that they've missed their estimates.

I had to write a column about it. That's how dumb of an excuse it was. The weak market data was merely synonymous of an economy turning sluggish, not the weather.

So flights never cancel due to heavy snowfall? Is that what you are suggesting?

 

Yes, lower than predicted economic projections.

Don't try to ignore the impact weather has on if people want to go out and spend money. Even online shoppers are affected by slow delivery times.

...are you suggesting we didn't break a record for cancelled flights this year?

 

Yes, because it's so obvious that the weather has a severe impact on the market place, the street not only made an optimistic forecast once, but twice.

This is what economics has come to. When Wall Street Economist have an even worst forecasting record than a rodent.

Yes, but the bad weather doesn't affect online shopping.

I don't deny that. I only find it odd that you are treating 'cancelled flights' as strange, given the circumstances.

 

First off... few deny "Climate Change".... we deny the man made portion is such a huge impact as claimed by leftists.

What do we have to gain? Let's put it this way, if we enacted as a planet every bit of Kyoto the impact would be negligible on the climate, yet the impact on the world economies would be significant.

Until leftists accept that MODERN NUCLEAR POWER is completely safe, viable, and the current proper path... I say they can just shut the hell up because they have no real solutions. (Note: Chernobyl and Fukushima are not Modern Nuclear Plants - They were designed in the 1950's)

Lefties, until you have some solutions that make sense stay away from our economies.

 

All it will do is move some money around, for the most part. Investments will be redirected.

Greed is what we're going trade for catastrophe?!!

What matters in this world cannot ALWAYS be about money; that is essentially a very stupid and shallow approach to reality.

People matter more than money... but you have to scream to high-heaven so that can be heard.

Let's go ahead with what's BETTER, not necessarily what is most 'profitable'. I suspect that going greener NOW, will save us more money (and planet to live on) than many realize today.

 

Are people still confusing weather with climate change?

 

You gain the reputation of a raving knee-biter.

 

By limiting resources to those that need it the most, third world countries. Very compassionate.

 

Yeah, know-it-all economists WILL continue to deny the urgency and seriousness of climate change solutions... UNTIL they are touched DIRECTLY.

And that is most likely only a matter of a little more time.

 

That is you sir. Eight of the last ten YEARS have been the warmest on record.

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Insult noted.

Anything factual to add?

 

It's not about the money, but how we use resources efficiently. I don't believe we should necessarily downgrade our standard of living just to achieve a cleaner, environmentally stable planet. Instead, it is just better to use wealth to achieve that. We can use wealth to use resources in more efficient ways to limit greenhouse gases, reduce dependency on oil and help clean the environment.

The point is that people do not want to use these alternatives, because they are simply too expensive. They are more expensive because the resources to make these things cost more than we, as a society, are able to produce.

I also don't see any reason if forcing people to use alternatives we find convenient for the planet. If someone found a cheaper way of producing these alternatives, there would be no need to force anyone to use them. People would gladly switch on their own.