What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

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What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

  1. The moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers

    4 vote(s)
    3.6%
  2. Fully justified although they go too far sometimes.

    24 vote(s)
    21.4%
  3. Impossible to say

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  4. Unjustified although I understand where they're coming from.

    9 vote(s)
    8.0%
  5. Bunch of racist thugs.

    74 vote(s)
    66.1%
  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    No he was a police officer who legitimately arrested a criminal and used reasonable force to subdue him, the criminal died from his drug abuse and the officer was railroaded into prison to appease the mob.

    Yes, that's my view and it's correct and I think I speak for many people who resent people of colour playing the race card and using imaginary racism as an excuse for thuggery and crime. No, I don't see any attempts to condemn and stop black upon black violence, I see people demanding the defunding of the police and the murder rate sky rocketing.
    Here's what I'd like to know, when are we going to have real reform in the black community so this doesn't happen any more? Because they're the only ones who can make the change.
     
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    That's according to just you in an alternative reality.

    Well, the racism is real. It has been scientifically proven over and over again. So when will the white community reform?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, the white community of South Africa reformed, and blacks there are all so much happier, wealthier and safer now.
     
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    You don't know what the word "lynch" means. You're using it out of it's definition because you're race baiting and you are trying to make floyd look like he wasn't a career criminal on many dangerous forms of narcotics who kicked in peoples doors and threatened to shoot pregnant women and fought the police on a regular basis. You know, a giant POS? Wait, is that an imaginary crowd of black people clapping for your nonsensical SJW emoting? Does this sooth the self esteem issues?
     
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    I responded to this BS in my previous post.
     
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    No, you ignored everything and went back to hearing imaginary applause from criminals. Odd fetish I must say.
     
  7. Reasonablerob

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    1. No this is the real world.
    2. No it isn't, we need a sea change in the black community, it needs to raise itself up rather than drag everyone else down.
     
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    And how would you know? Have you spent a lot of time with black community leaders? Who and where?

    How long have you lived in black neighborhoods? Tell me about the black experience growing up.

    Tell me everything you know about being black. And please, try to fill at least one entire paragraph. ;)
     
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    The reality is that you fully support a convicted murderer. And the white community needs to change. All I'm always reading is a smear campaign against a guy who got lynched to death, and the killer took a generous amount of time to slowly do that. That entire smear campaign is the white community saying that his black life did not matter anyways.

    And I am not interested in you denying that Chauvin aint a convict.
     
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    do you think the white community needs to feel white guilt, and why?
     
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    I spent 20 years on the street picking up the stabbed and bleeding bodies of young black males and mocking their bigotry, racism and hypocrisy. I grew up in a country where we had the army on the streets to protect us from our neighbours who wanted to murder us for being different to them and when you heard a boom in the distance you assumed it was a bomb rather than thunder. So don't feel sorry for yourself, this is all your fault.

    You mean railroaded innocent man. You mean career criminal who caused his own death. His black life did matter as all do but he made his choice. The white community can't change, they cannot be dragged down into the values of black society, the black community must rise up their standard.
     
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    I think they don't matter more than white lives
     
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    The systemic racism in the US is a thing that is true. I have proven it in other threads you were in with 6 different sources like Stanford University, Human Rights Watch, American Psychology Association. You know I did. And I do not care about your unfounded opinion that it aint so.

    Say you accept that systemic racism happens in the US, for the heck of it. Than you could only agree that this is done primarily by the absolute dominant ethnicity in the US: the white population. And so they got a cultural problem. It's indeed a "they" as a whole, since it is a systemic thing... with individual exceptions here and there.
     
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    I mean a career thug with a badge who killed a person on purpose for no lawful reason.
    He is getting draggen in to more lawsuits where he mistreated civilians for no reason,
    as well as his embezzlement scheme to avoid paying taxes over 500,000 bucks of income.

    Such a dirty cop is your champion. You can only wonder how much the ethnic background plays a roll here.
     
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    You mean a pro-active thief taker who had the bad luck to arrest the one criminal in a million who died from his drug abuse/health problems and became the scapegoat for black society who would rather believe in the myth of racism than address their own problems to violent crime which keeps them in poverty and forces the police into conflict with them?

    YOUR champion is a career criminal and drug addict who robbed a pregnant woman at gunpoint? I do wonder how much ethnic background plays a ROLE here?
     
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    He didn't die because of that. The end.

    I don't recall Chauvin is such a career criminal, but maybe he will get that lawsuit filed against him as well.
    And he aint my champion. He is your champion.
     
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    You know he did, Floyd was a career criminal, Chauvin the champion who you call to protect you from him.
     
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    You posted opinion pieces, nothing more. You’re making up “systemic racism” so you can virtue signal yourself out of guilt you self applied.
     
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    Think this through with some common sense. Firstly, quoting opinions doesn't prove anything other than who has the opinion. There are some organizations that are systemically racist - BLM and KKK come to mind. There is almost no systemic racism anywhere else in society. For an organization to be systemically racist like BLM would require that members be racist. That is as rare as hens teeth. Racism is personal thing, not a systemic thing. In almost every single organization there are policies against racism. If people harbor racist sentiments, they do so personally, not because the system requires it or even supports it.

    It is an argument of words that helps political hacks attach organizations. It is about power and control. It has nothing at all to do with race.
     
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    It's a fact that it is just and only your opinion that scientific research are "opinion pieces". You really add nothing to this discussion. I'll not respond to you again.
     
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    It's Chauvin the career criminal who you call if you want to personally experience police brutality with deadly consequences.
     
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    Human Rights Watch, Stanford University and the American Psychological Association disagree and got it backed up wit data.
    There is also something like the US sentencing commission, who can not explain that black people under the same circumstances get on average a much harsher sentence.
    The gig is up. There is something like white privilege / systemic racism.

    You naming an organization that fights for equal rights as a racist institute says to me that no matter what, that you can not accept that there is systemic racism.
     
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    You are correct I can't accept the existence of what doesn't exist. There is no systemic racism. Racism is a personal thing, not a systemic one. Systemic racism died with the civil rights act. I did say that there are a handful of racist organizations like BLM and KKK but they are way out of the main stream.

    BLM is not fighting for equal rights. It is fighting for the establishment of marxist ideologies in American culture. It uses violence as an important tool in reaching its goals. I'm sorry you can't see that. It is important for you to learn it. KKK is very racist but not very violent in this modern age.

    The data to which you refer above points out racial discrimination. There certainly is a lot of that. However, it is applied by individuals, not organizations and systems. And there is much much less of it than there was decades ago. It certainly isn't gone yet but it isn't applied by policy. It is applied by people. Sorry it is the truth. I continue to be amazed at how successful the Marxists are at swaying the youth in American. They are masterful at it.
     
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    It's a fact that it didn't die when the civil rights act got signed.
    Jaywalking is also against the law. It hasn't stopped the bulk of the population to comply.
    In fact, a person tried to get a citation a whole day long, even in front of the police, but failed to get one.
    Systemic racism isn't any different.

    When it happens a lot by a lot of individuals, than it becomes a cultural habit. And that is when you get to call it systemic.
    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/systemic-racism

    Apparently, you do not know what it means.
     
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