What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

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What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

  1. The moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers

    4 vote(s)
    3.6%
  2. Fully justified although they go too far sometimes.

    24 vote(s)
    21.4%
  3. Impossible to say

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  4. Unjustified although I understand where they're coming from.

    9 vote(s)
    8.0%
  5. Bunch of racist thugs.

    74 vote(s)
    66.1%
  1. TOG 6

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    -That- party is elected by people who want the handouts they believe they are entitled to - so, yes, that speaks volumes.
     
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  2. dairyair

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    and tRUMP gasses protesters to take a pic with an upside down and backwards facing bible.
     
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    I support them wanting to get rid of biased cops, but I think some go to far into the "black nationalist" territory, that I do not support

    I think all races should want to get rid of bad cops, bad cops are bad for society
     
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    Needed more gas, they're still running around making trouble.
     
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    The bad news is that it's selling well.
     
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    Two or Twenty, I don't think that makes a difference.
     
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    If you are looking for blame, a municipality is responsible for it's own police department isn't it? I'm not sure what "opposite sides" you are referring to unless it's the city's desire to now defund their own police department, and the police department's desire not to be defunded.
     
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    To a certain subset of the population , free government handouts > working
     
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    Not according to Wilkinson (2004).
     
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    Not looking for blame.
    Stating my opinion on what I see.
    And in many places where riots have occurred, the police don't seem to be in sync with the mayor.
    They listen to the mayor as that is the boss. But I gather they do so reluctantly.

    Do you think the Seattle police wanted to abandon their precinct? I bet not.
     
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    It's a joke. A dangerous joke. Like a rabid animal it should be put down.
     
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    No I'm pretty sure they didn't want to abandon a precinct to rioters, but they followed orders and did so. So that decision rests on the mayor and the political establishment. Which of course, was the point I was making in the first place, The city has been Democratic controlled for decades, and when push comes to shove, that's the sort of decisions you get,
     
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    I didn't vote because there was no option for how I feel. It would be between the first and second choices. They have not gone any further than what the First Amendment allows.
     
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    Last I knew the 1st Amendment does not protect looting, arson, assault etc etc.
     
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    Generally hating whitey is racism. "Affirmative Action" is systemic racism.
     
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    Basically, I don't think anyone can really argue with their observation that black people are disproportionately affected by excessive force, though I don't think this excessive force is generally due to intentional racism. Also, there are clearly members who use the cause as an excuse to commit acts of vandalism and arson, though I don't blame the whole group for that.

    I think they do a good job of explaining to people that they mean "black lives matter, too" not "only black lives matter," but the people who don't understand that yet probably never will.
     
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    Thank you for your excellent clarification.

    I've heard the term "systemic racism" thrown around so much lately by people who do not know the meaning of "systemic" but just like the term "systemic racism" because it sounds fancier.
     
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    That doesn't explain why they get irate when people say "all lives matter". Especially since whites are much more likely to be shot by the police than blacks in similar circumstances.

    Anyone who says BLM isn't a racist hate group is either lying or in denial.
     
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    I agree. They are nothing more than a terrorist organization.

    I do agree with BLM however, Blue Lives Matter. And of course, ALM.
     
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    The same reason someone wearing a breast cancer t-shirt is probably going to get upset if you go up to them and start chanting "There are other kinds of cancer, you know! Why don't you care about those!"

    If I run into the street screaming that my house is on fire and your response is "Well other houses can burn, too," then, while you are correct, all you are really doing is trying to erase my concern. That's why they get upset.

    This doesn't appear to be true. More whites are shot by police overall, but the number of blacks shot is disproportionately high for their population size. Meaning, if you are black, you are disproportionately more likely to be shot than if you are white. There's psychological research showing this too -- that people are more likely to hesitate when shooting at a white person on a paper target than a black one. And black people face more jail time for the same crimes. And black people are more likely to be subject to discretionary searches for drugs, despite white people being more likely to actually be holding said drugs during a search. Again, I don't think most of this is deliberate racism (a lot of it is just due to broken windows policies), but it is simply, statistically true to say that black people are, on the whole, treated differently under the law.

    Anyone who thinks it is "racist" to be aware of these excessive force issues is either lying or in denial.
     
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    Not under similar circumstances. You are not considering the fact that blacks commit a hugely disproportional percentage of violent crimes.

    Whites are significantly more likely to be shot when the specific crimes that led to the shooting are taken into consideration.
     
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    They are the violent shock troops for the Left's Critical Race Theory, which is nothing more than Hitlerian race theory.

    READ THIS INSTEAD OF ‘WHITE FRAGILITY:’
     
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    So we get passages like this from a priceless open letter in Portland Monthly where “white people” are addressed en masse and told to “Consider your performative solidarity officially on notice” and it explains how "To Do The Work:"
    Cult
     
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    In ASL terms, they're 1(3)-3-5 mob squads.
    As if that has any meaning...
     
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    What is systemic racism?
     

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