MSNBC is leftwing. Fox News is rightwing. CNN is okay, but has become too Trump focused. Can we all agree that the American cable news channels are all subpar? What about a real centrist news station, or would both sides be attacking the network?
The real opposition right now is becoming less and less about left vs right, and more and more about nationalist vs globalist. And while there is a center in the traditional left vs right paradigm (e.g if you want a bit of welfare but not too much), there is really no such thing in the nationalist vs globalist paradigm. You're either one or the other, the differences are completely irreconcilable, and there is no middle ground. You can have a pure news channel that only reports facts and isn't politicized, but there is no longer a center in politics.
Actually FOX was created to balance the ever increasing leftward drift of the three alphabet broadcast networks of ABC, CBS, and NBC; which constantly catered to leftist messaging and routinely denigrated the Right and as a result were beginning to be only a propaganda adjunct to the Democratic National Committee and THEIR Dem Party presidents. NBC/MSNBC was created to be a counter to FOX by moving so far Left that it became a mere parody of an outlet. CNN has gradually become a radical leftist rival to MSNBC. Thus FOX is technically centrist in comparison to all the other media outlets in that it allows both the Left and the Right to have their say. That just shows how far Left the other outlets have drifted over time.
Unless you have just purely news you won't get a centrist policy. And CNN is not ok, they are the worst of the bunch with their Trump hate.
I think we need a strictly news station. One that informs us not only of domestic news but international news. No spin, no bias, no telling people WHAT to think. Basically an information service. But the same station could also conduct genuine journalism, that is, with honesty, integrity, and incorporating journalistic standards on each issue or story. This mean not just one side of a story or issue is given as you see in MSM and FOX, but all sides of a story is presented. And one side is not promoted over the other. The viewers then can use their own brains, and form their own opinions. Now, this will not be a news station for partisans, for they don't want but their side of the story, but it would serve americans, Independents in particular who want to be well informed, and then use their own minds to determine their own position. Such an outlet might create severe anxiety for partisans who have been conditioned as to what to think, and might send them screaming from the outlet, to a safer room where they don't have to think at all, Just believe what they are being told, which meshes with either a left or right ideology, and partisanship.
I actually think partisan news is more effective since you get to hear peoples opinions on things as well as the facts. It's more informative. You are free to switch channels back and forth to get the different perspectives. For instance, when someone talks about Trump on FOX they may make an Obama reference, revealing something you didn't know about Obama. Non-opinionated news wouldn't offer that. All you would get are the bare facts of an event.
People, IMO, do not go from FOX to MSNBC in order to get both sides, or all sides. These outlets serve a bias, MSM serves lefty dems and FOX serves conservative repubs. And there is no place that you actually see genuine journalism practiced in the legacy media, where standards are used, instead of promoting one side. One bite of the sandwich should present all sides with none being favored by the journalist. Just my opinion. I would not even want an editorial sector on such a news outlet. I see it as mere propaganda, used to try to convince people, who cannot or will not use their own minds to process factual information. We could of course still have the outlets that promote either the dems or the repubs. For the lazy thinkers. And those that need to be rallied for one party or the other. But that isn't journalism.
You could watch FOX or CNN and still gather the facts of a story. They both report them, they just comment on them also. For instance, would you not know what the Mueller investigation is if you only watch CNN or FOX? Of course you would. You seem to think that opinionated commentary changes the facts or hides them when it doesn't, it's just extra stuff. Plus it would be boring to just hear someone drone on about the facts with no passion. So I have to respectfully disagree with this proposal. If people had actually wanted this then someone would have made it already. The fact is that people are biased, they aren't robots interested in only facts, they also have a need to be entertained. They want to hear the fact then someone's opinion on it.
Here is the thing the right wing is right where it has always been yet the left has moved so far to the left that what is "centrist" now is very far to the left. What we need is news that telks the facts of whats going on without respect to any political ideology. A centerist would. Agree that government overspending is bad Agree that stealing from the rich isn't the solution to everything Agree that the second ammendment is being infringed already Agree that people's religious rights are being infringed Agree that the government shouldn't be used a weapon to target political rivals Agrees that if you resist the police you should expect bad things to happen. Agrees that people are not responsible for the actions of their great grand fathers These are centrist ideals. Not far right ideals. I think Fox is the closest. Here is the real thing though. Communiism is a revolutionary idea. It's whole intent is to overthrow capitalism, that is why it was invented and that is it's only goal. However history does not favor communism it has shown itself to be evil and that nothing good comes from it. CNN, MSNBC and most of the entertainment industry are leftists. But they know they cannot sell communism doesn't sell so they have to rebrand it. So they use words like fairness, equality, institutional racism, etc... The overthrow of capitalism is still the goal and it's still evil. In short Fox news and the Republican party is the centrist party.
Sorry, Bobaroony, those are not "centrist ideals". "Centrists" don't wet themselves because bigots don't get to hide behind religion to discriminate. They also don't believe that the 2nd Amendment is already being infringed upon. "Centrists" also don't believe that taxation is "stealing", from anyone. Most of the rest comes from pretend conservatives who are blowing up the federal deficit through ideologically-driven taxation policy. The last point I agree with.
You think that because you are a leftist. I am a centeist... i think income tax should be flat across the board.. everyone pays the same low % of their income. Also it's based on physical residence. If you live in the USA you pay income tax regardless of where your business is located.
If you think that (a) those are "centrist" views, you're plainly not a centrist, and (b) if you believe that Fox is the most "centrist" news source, you're plainly not a centrist. Calling yourself a centrist in order to buy some credibility as a neutral person doesn't work if your posts betray your RW views, my friend. Now, me--I am a centrist. I have voted for a number of GOP candidates in the past, made contributions to them as well. That stopped with the trumpification of the party.
Doh, i have voted for Democrats and worked as a volunteer on environmental issues related to wild salmon and steelhead in the Pacific Northwest. Bill Clinton was a centrist since Bill Clinton the democratic party has moved to extreme positions on most things. The Republican party has stayed pretty much on the same spot and quite frankly Trump though being an idiot on Twitter and a typical politican he has pretty much the same views as Republicans who came before him. Illegal immigration is just that illegal Sanctuary cities? Thats an extreme leftist idea that has emerged since Clinton Democrats talking about semi automatic gun bans is an extreme leftist view, and unscientific to boot. Sorry this country has been moves so far left in the last 20 years any centrist view are going to move the country to the right. On the other hand forget centrist entirely how about just follow the constitution?
If the GOP is the centrist party, why are people like Steve King, Cindy Hyde-Smith, Steve Scalise still in it?
I am googling these people as i don't know them.. Cindy Hyde- Smith doesn't seem too extreme. Steve King was defunded by the RNC and has removed him from all house committee assignments. I don't see anything extreme about steve Scalise. He apparently made a mistake by unknowingly speaking for a white supremacist group about taxes. Here are some views that are not extreme. Being opposed to gay marriage Believe the constitution should be uphelp Beliving that abortion is murder. Believing that people should come into this country legally. Beliving that Americans should be in control of who moves here. These are not extreme views.
There's a channel out of Japan called NHK World that does a really good job of reporting the straight news.
Cable news organizations of all stripes have one foot in the grave. There's a new interest in long form political discussion, as opposed to sound bites and one liners. The future is in independent web based content providers, both audio and video. You can find people of all political persuasions on youtube having in depth conversations with people who actually know what the hell they're talking about.
You tube. Yeah what a beacon of free expression.. I think Metallica said it best.. "You can do it your own was, if it's done just how I say"
Centrist news is available but what has happened is the right has shifted so far that the center now seems left to them. I prefer our system not cater to any political standing...including theirs.
Agree, everything is skewed from that far left position. The left as moved the bar so far over they can no longer see the middle of the road. It will get worse now that they have so many progressives in gov't.
