What do you think of war films?

Well the person in the middle is Captain Huff. He was head of Naval Support when the Marines went into Vietnam originally, and was the Navies lead amphibious warfare expert. He saw things very differently than McNamara, and further, didn't get along with him.

Have you read "Dereliction of Duty: Johnson, McNamara, the Joint Chiefs, and the Lies That Lead to Vietnam" by Gen. McMaster?

 

Yeah, I read it.

McNamara was one of JFK's "young and brightest" who all ended up not being so bright.

 

I concur.

"Brother in Arms" was produced by Steven Spielberg that dealt with the experiences of some soldiers in the European theater of war.

After "Brother in Arms," Spielberg produce "The Pacific" dealing with the experiences of some Marines in the Pacific.

 

Band of Brothers? Band of Brothers was about Easy company of the 101

 

Band of Brothers is a 2001 American war drama miniseries based on historian Stephen E. Ambrose's 1992 non-fiction book of the same name. The executive producers were Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks, who had collaborated on the 1998 World War II film Saving Private Ryan. The episodes first aired in 2001 on HBO. The series won Emmy and Golden Globe awards in 2001 for best miniseries.

The series dramatizes the history of "Easy" Company (part of the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division) from jump training in the United States through its participation in major actions in Europe, and up until Japan's capitulation and war's end. The events portrayed are based on Ambrose's research and recorded interviews with Easy Company veterans. The series took literary license, adapting the recorded history for the purposes of dramatic effect and series structure. All of the characters portrayed are based on members of Easy Company. Some of the men were recorded in contemporary interviews, which viewers see as preludes to each episode. The men's identities are not revealed until the finale... -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Band_of_Brothers_(miniseries)


The Pacific is a 2010 American television series produced by HBO, Playtone and DreamWorks that premiered in the United States on March 14, 2010.

The series is a companion piece to the 2001 miniseries Band of Brothers and focuses on the United States Marine Corps' actions in the Pacific Theater of Operations within the wider Pacific War. Whereas Band of Brothers followed the men of Easy Company of the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment through the European Theater, The Pacific centers on the experiences of three Marines (Robert Leckie, Eugene Sledge and John Basilone) who were all in different regiments (1st, 5th and 7th, respectively) of the 1st Marine Division.

The Pacific was spearheaded by Bruce C. McKenna (co-executive producer), one of the main writers on Band of Brothers. Hugh Ambrose, the son of Band of Brothers author Stephen Ambrose, served as a project consultant.

The miniseries features the 1st Marine Division's battles in the Pacific, such as Guadalcanal, Cape Gloucester, Peleliu, and Okinawa, as well as Basilone's involvement in the Battle of Iwo Jima. It is based primarily on the memoirs of two U.S. Marines: With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa by Eugene Sledge; and Helmet for My Pillow by Robert Leckie. It also draws on Sledge's China Marine[ and Red Blood, Black Sand, the memoir of Chuck Tatum, a Marine who fought alongside Basilone on Iwo Jima...-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pacific_(miniseries)

 

Yea seen them both many times. Own them. Loved Band of Brothers by far though. Maybe I'm biased

 

I liked "Band of Brothers" more than "The Pacific."

 

Definitely.

 

Pearl Harbor was a bizarre movie. It is one thing to forsake historical accuracy and realism to make a movie more entertaining, but they failed even in that regards. It was just a hot mess.

 

Yea, it got a 25% rating on rotton tomatoes (rating site, usually VERY accurate), and 66% of viewers liked it. I think 66% seems high but if you read the comments, it's mainly women interested in the love story aspect of the movie, not really about the war.

 

Sorry for the source, but...

Side note:

Why Wikipedia has a credibility problem and should only be used as a starting point for further research.

There was no "U.S. Army Air Forces" on Dec. 7th, 1941. The U.S. Army had the "Army Air Corps."

Army aviation was to small to be a "air Force" on Dec. 7th 1941

It takes two of three "air corps" to be classified as an "air force."

What is it ? three or more squadrons = air group.

three or more air groups = air wing

three or more air wings = air corps

three or more air corps = air force

Before 1947 it was U.S. Army Air Forces. Noticed that forces is plural.

 

Just another example besides Trump that just because you are a good CEO, that doesn't make you good at government.

 

To keep it historically correct, JFK's inner circle who were known as the "Young and Brightest" were all Harvard grads.

From lessons learned over the past five decades, I will never vote for someone who attended Harvard.

 

But a Yale Cheerleader...

 

I gave up on trying to figure that one out.

But G.W. Bush attended Harvard Business School.

 

I was discussing this on Facebook yesterday:

Why is there no movie or TV series about the 442nd Regimental Combat Team? All volunteers, all Japanese-Americans whose families had been put in camps, and yet they still decided to fight for America. One of the most decorated units in the entire war.

 

Write a screen play. I'm not being sarcastic.

 

I *wish* I had the talent to do it justice.

 

Never know dude.

 

I think it's very easy to make a lazy war movie. In the script just write "Action, 20 mins".

When done right they can be some of the most emotionally affecting films out there. Saving Private Ryan, Bridge over the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia, Apocalypse Now, etc.

War Movies are worse today because CGI makes it so easy (and tempting) to cheat and make half your movie Michael Bay style action that doesn't advance the plot at all. Spectacle is the enemy of war flicks.

 

The movie has already been produced, "Go For Broke."

 

I'm a connoisseur of war movies and I have never even heard of that film. That's a damned shame that they aren't more famous.

Ah, right there is why: Budget $1,300

 

Guess what ?

Since the movie "GO FOR BROKE" is now in the public domain you can watch the entire movie right now.

 

That's actually as hit against it. It was so low budget and worth so little that the owners of the copyright didn't see the value in maintaining.

They really need to do a new movie or series that does such a unit justice.

 

I don't see the Hollywood Left doing it.

I could see Clint Eastwood doing it.

Eastwood's "Letters from Iwo Jima" was an excellent WW ll movie.