What does Britain want? The art of negotiation.

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  1. Blücher

    Blücher Active Member

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    For not needing British money.
     
  2. The Scotsman

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    So no clue then...standard response from a good European....:roflol:
     
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    Have I to tell you why an army is needed? Or why it's less expensive to have an European nextgen fighter rather than 5 different?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By the time the bureaucrats of 27 different countries all agree on a common war policy, the war will be over, and the EU will have lost it.
     
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    No but it might be interesting from your informed position to describe how its' to be structured? How it will function in terms of command and control...based on the conflicting capabilities of the constituents? How will it be integrated in combat zones for command and control? Will the Bundesrat allow Germans to go into serious combat rather than sending cooks. What will be the force desgination from each country or are you all just going in your own directions? The French are probably the most capable after the Brits so will the French have the main say since the Germans can't decide if they want to fight or hug trees. It's interesting that in most of the current combat scenarios and indeed since and including the Balkan conflict that most of the fighting has been done without any significant "European" co-operation!

    The "nextgen" fighters as you call them have yet to have a defined role assigned to them - all that happens is you get a bastardised multi-role capability which is great if you want to be sencond rate at everything and specialist in nothing. But then you have to figure on the logistics of their operations and that tends to land on the shoulders of the Americans when operating out of Europe...or is the EU army just going to put down conflicts in Catalonia?? No the idea of an EU army is a political neccessity not an operational requirement. We already have NATO and based on the past performance of "European" combat capabilities I would rather go with that.
     
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    As you know, the tories want Christmas every day and free contaceptives in the pudding, all paid for by Europe because they love us so much. Weirdoes.
     
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    I bet that means something amongst the Brexiteers.
     
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    Sounds a bit perverted. Pity you can't haver a club of one, but perhaps you can merge with the Adolf Hitler Fan Club! :)
     
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    Since many european aircforces are going for American aircraft seem logical to defray the absurd levels of R&D buy theirs. You can buy what... 4-5 block 60s versus 1 Eurofighter.... and I'm not convinced about the Eurofighter!
     
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    Adolf Hitler fan club....does it have subscription fees or do you just need a referal and a few white balls...:roflol:
     
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    PESCO will prevent that.
     
  12. Ned Lud

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    If you want to be ruled by Bliar what's wrong with Trump? You'd be safe from the truth with either, and Mrs Thatcher could hardly carry on her war with Britain and all it ever stood for, even to please the Shade of Hitler.
     
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    It's not about the Eurofighter but its successor. Gripen, Rafale and Eurofighter will not last forever.
     
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    That's true personally I'd go for the American kit...look at their lead times as opposed to the European apporach
     
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    They don't sell the F-22 at all and the F-35 is quite expensive and the abilities are at least questionable.
     
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    I think we're tuning into plane spotters...which is marginaly less nerdy and pathetic than trainspotters...we should let the adults continue...;)
     
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    We promised to pay zero pounds.
    You are welcome to it.
     
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    Because you don't use them.
    You don't have an aircraft carrier or fight in any wars. So all you need is one simple fighter looking aircraft for parades.
     
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    The fee is 39 billion.
     
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    Not for lack of trying! lol.
    Hahahaha.
     

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